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Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27433 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:16 pm to
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Your statistics may say that


They're not my statistics; all statistics say that. It's not a controversial observation.

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None, but its only a problem for blacks? Thats an overdependence on old world moraks and ideals that no longer exist.


No, it's a problem for any group that does it, but walk me through your reasoning here. Earlier you complain about fatherless homes, even claiming that current problems stem from that. Now you're saying they don't matter, because that's just old world morals. Which is it? Why hasn't the black population not grown and learned new ways?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68816 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:18 pm to
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These are not root causes of the problem, these are effects of the root cause.


So slavery causes black men to produce children by multiple women and not be a father figure in said children's lives?
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2151 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
Out of wedlock and single parent homes are not mutually exclusive. Most lower income white people with children that I know don’t get married because the government interventions incentivize them not to do so.
Posted by LABred08
Dallas, Tx
Member since Feb 2011
435 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:21 pm to
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The mistake is thinking that racism and bigotry only happens on one side of the political spectrum. Leftists have shown they do NOT have a hatred of racism. They love it. They just want it pointed at their enemies. It's sick.

Calling out the overt racsim embraced by the left isn't idiocy. Ignoring it is.


But you tried to make it political, I didnt cause my belief is politics have no place in racial issues other than to enforce equality. The rest is a humankind issue and thats what my posts here have said, people today are inherently idiotic, conceited and self centered, and Id say the same to my own and have. So much so that we can't see anybody else for focusing on whats wrong with them and whats right with self. Left, Right all thats social construct of assimilated beliefs, bias will naturally occur and its why the political system is flawed from bottom to top but my feelings of self and race arent attached to my political beliefs cause none of them actually or even should care about whats best for my or any group over another. At that moment, it becomes biased and a waste, so we are all just choosing the lesser of two evils to ourselves.

My feelings on race are what Ive seen, what Ive lived, not what someone told me. I love people for who they are and nothing more. I hate for the same reason cause hatred is just as inherent as love. When people get comfortable and honest with that and why and aim to be better than those reasons being superficial, the world change for the better.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68816 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:21 pm to
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Most lower income white people with children that I know don’t get married because the government interventions incentivize them not to do so.


And most of those kids aren't real winners either
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:23 pm to
Can you site a personal experience of this bullshite claim.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85882 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:23 pm to
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And these next few years will be very eye opening for you. Buckle up.






I bet the prospect of this violence makes you wet.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:24 pm to
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Cause its simply a reality, there are things that a white man can do that wont make anybody bat an eye, that I would do and have the police called on me for, and that is the definition and reality


If you could expand as to why?

I warrant that a certain demographic accounts for a certain amount of violent crime and that is the cause for people to prejudge them.

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Does it disallow my progress, no. Would you it be nice to be judged by my actions instead of a first glance and judgement, YES


100% agree. I would argue here that only you, and other black folks can change this. And to do so would most assuredly open the eyes, ears, and hearts of those who need to the most.

I don't intend to tell you how to act, but I will tell you that only you can change the perception of you.

Further I will say that white folks aren't entirely absolved of the core issue of prejudice and there are some versions of police reform that could aid.

All this to say, black lives do matter. But nobody gives a shite about that BLM moniker when the only black lives that matter are the ones that can be used to elevate racial tensions in the U.S. If that organization were to be in Chicago kicking arse and taking names over the 60 that were shot last weekend, people might start to take them seriously.
Posted by Frank Black
the dawn of the new millenium
Member since Mar 2004
5351 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:25 pm to
Don't forget Affirmative Action and racial quotas
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2151 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:26 pm to
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So slavery causes black men to produce children by multiple women and not be a father figure in said children's lives?




No, read page 4 for my postulattion
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27433 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:26 pm to
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So slavery causes black men to produce children by multiple women and not be a father figure in said children's lives?



Maybe slavery has a Tardis.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19200 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:29 pm to
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nobody watches tv
nobody listens to the radio


It's actually pretty easy to miss out on pop culture with satellite radio and streaming for tv watching.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68816 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:31 pm to
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No, read page 4 for my postulattion


You mean where you blamed it on privatized jails?
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:43 pm to
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privatized jails reduce black males from society


Yes, but you failed to take this far enough to find the root cause.

The glorification of violence and rebellion against education plays a big role.

If one was to prioritize education, it can be expected that one could seize more opportunities, and therefore minimize the need to commit crimes that are of "necessity" to provide.

Simply put, one must ask why other minorities aren't seeing the same incarceration rates as blacks and what is it that they do to prevent it.
Posted by LABred08
Dallas, Tx
Member since Feb 2011
435 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:52 pm to
Example: I work with a diverse group of people. Im black, 2 people of hispanic decendent, 2 people from Middle Eatern Nations and 1 white person. I work in a hospital, no scrubs, business casual. In a progressive, moderately wealthy community. To still see little old white women, ignore the minorities to speak to the 1 white woman or even to have the 1 white woman bring these older white patients to me in a jovial mood and that to dissapate at the sight of my black face, with no thank youre when Im done. Or the white man I helped who assumed I stole his ID and Insurance information. He chose me, the only black person who entered his room (He voiced this!), but his wife took it home when she left. Whole investigation over nothing. It happens. You dont know what the outcome will be but you deal with it. But why should I have to? It doesnt feel great you know. I dont care ab ok ut sympathy for it but why was it the case it occurred? Cause Im black.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43366 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:58 pm to
Although your example is anecdotal, it’s a prime example of where white people can and need to do better.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Cause Im black.


It's anecdotal. You are right here. But I will editorialize on a few points.

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To still see little old white women, ignore the minorities to speak to the 1 white woman or even to have the 1 white woman bring these older white patients to me in a jovial mood and that to dissapate at the sight of my black face, with no thank youre when Im done


Literally a dying breed. While it doesn't make it right, there is nothing you can do about this. They will die soon and race relations will be better for it.

What you can control is the perception of black folks moving forward. The perception is of 6% of the population committing over 50% of violent crimes. Unfortunately, non blacks have no way to fix this.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127149 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Cause Im black.


Though this is an apt description, the reality is it applies in all directions. We have an unfortunate tendency to gravitate towards that which we know and are familiar with. That is why I love being a Soldier. You cannot do this in the Army.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
29453 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Right, Ive been seeing so much talk about blacks being brainwashed by the left and media. It baffles me cause if they actually knew about black thought, theyd know we are the least trusting race or demographic there is. Its breed into us cause of well, you know, that whole slavery thang. We dont trust anybody, including our own and it all stems back to that. Fatherless homes stems back to slavery and families being sold and divided so much of my races admitted problems with ourselves still stem to that but thats wayyyyy too deep for this forum.


Lol. Muh slavery! What a pathetic excuse for the poor choices that black people make, particularly black men. Take responsibility for your own decisions.
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