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re: A Message from Kyle Rittenhouse...
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:40 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:40 am to AggieHank86
You better cross your t's and dot your i's if you post here. Granted, some of the people giving you shite have been scant on details and sometimes make things up as they go along, but they say the right things from this board's perspective. So, mind your details!
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:43 am to Jorts R Us
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So, mind your details!
ESPECIALLY if you spend the majority of your time criticizing others for the smallest of mistakes and insult their intelligence in an effort to gain validation !
It's called being a hypocritical doosh-bag, you f'in moron.....
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:48 am to oogabooga68
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ESPECIALLY if you spend the majority of your time criticizing others for the smallest of mistakes and insult their intelligence in an effort to gain validation ! It's called being a hypocritical doosh-bag, you f'in moron..
I don't disagree. I just extend that same standard beyond Hank. It's called consistency, Bingo Hall.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:52 am to AggieHank86
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Good morning, Ooga. Was that macro 1 or macro 2?
Which one teaches the definition of murder you dumbass?
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You might try something original on occasion.
You might try being intelligent on occasion.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:55 am to Jorts R Us
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It's called consistency, Bingo Hall.
I LOVE that nick-name!
Reminds me of my younger years playing all those shitty gigs (did they play Bingo in those old VFW buildings?)!
Thanks!
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I just extend that same standard beyond Hank.
Oh stop it, people can look at your post History and see the relationship between you and Hank and how you show up out of thin air whenever your boyfriend is being attacked....it's all good, dawg, it's 2020 you don't have to hide your relationship!
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:56 am to oogabooga68
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You are laypersons. The entertaining part is watching you attack someone who DOES understand it.
Actually, you are not a good lawyer. Laypersons are the ones who actually decide, not lawyers; its called a jury. You have a vast majority of laypersons telling you that you are wrong based on evidence. Yet, your arrogant arse keep saying we are the stupid ones!
Goes to show you that advanced education does not correlate to intelligence. Any reasonable person can look at the evidence and conclude that Kyle was justified in his actions. Wisconsin is pretty straight forward, would a reasonable person put in Kyle's place done the same things and the answer is yes.
It is piss poor lawyers that try to manipulate the law for political purposes instead of just applying it as written.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:02 am to oogabooga68
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I LOVE that nick-name!
I'm glad you love it! I'm just humbly honoring the summit of your illustrious career.
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Oh stop it, people can look at your post History and see the relationship between you and Hank and how you show up out of thin air whenever your boyfriend is being attacked....it's all good, dawg, it's 2020 you don't have to hide your relationship!
I think this is what they call projecting. You know you have waaaaaaay more posts dealing with Hank than I do, right? I mean, it's an EVERY day thing for you. Just tell him how you feel already!
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:08 am to Jorts R Us
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Just tell him how you feel already!
Oh he knows I think he's a sad, narcissistic doosh who seeks validation on a message board.
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I'm glad you love it! I'm just humbly honoring the summit of your illustrious career.
Nah, the summit for me was the first REAL gig I ever played with a band.
It sounded horrible, but we got paid and were treated like conquering heroes!
Everything after that just paled in comparison!
Your friend,
Bingo.....
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:12 am to coolpapaboze
quote:Not only that...
I don’t understand why the guy whose arm he blew off isn’t in jail. He had a pistol which was illegal. Why hasn’t he been arrested?
It was bicep boi's own action that resulted in getting himself partially instantaneously amputated. If he'd have backed off and not had a pistol in his hand while he approached an AR15 wielding patriot, he'd have never been shot.
His own actions led to the shooting.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:17 am to FreddieMac
quote:Which is EXACTLY what I said in my very first post.
Any reasonable person can look at the evidence and conclude that Kyle was justified in his actions
Most seem to be struggling with the concept that the jury will be presented with a two-stage analysis.
First question: Did Kyle violate Wisconsin 940.01? ("whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony.").
Second question: If you answered "yes" to the First Question, was that action privileged under Wisconsin 939.48 (self-defense)? (Wisconsin uses the term "privilege," and Texas uses the term "justified." Other states use the term "excused." The effect is identical in each case.)
The questions may be phrased slightly-differently, but that is the gist of it.
An unbiased jury that is doing its job will answer "yes" to both questions, and Kyle will be a free man.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:20 am to Jorts R Us
quote:He wants my attention so badly that it is a bit pathetic.
You know you have waaaaaaay more posts dealing with Hank than I do, right? I mean, it's an EVERY day thing for you. Just tell him how you feel already!
Occasionally I toss him a bone. The downside is that doing-so seems to encourage the behavior. Of course, ignoring him did not do much good, either. It is a conundrum.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:23 am to AggieHank86
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental illness in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration, troubled relationships....
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:27 am to coolpapaboze
quote:I am NOT being a smartass. Why do you assert that his possession of the handgun was illegal? The only argument I have seen is related to his conditional release from several years earlier. If there is something else that made his possession of the firearm "illegal," what is it?
I don’t understand why the guy whose arm he blew off isn’t in jail. He had a pistol which was illegal. Why hasn’t he been arrested?
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There was a lot of speculation about him. The consensus was that he was on some sort of conditional release, and I opined that an MTR was likely in process if that were the case.
Now, it appears that he HAD been on a conditional release, that his conditional release term was completed some years ago and that the associated restrictions on firearm possession may have expired by the terms of his plea deal. From what I have seen, the answer to that question is not clear ... one way or the other.
If the restrictions DID expire, there is nothing TO revoke. In that instance, it is legitimate to ask whether his actions with that weapon that night violated the more-general Wisconsin gun laws. Perhaps so. A reasonable person could certainly believe that he was threatening young Kyle with that handgun.
It is hard to answer these questions because there has not been much legit reporting on him or on his earlier legal ... difficulties.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:29 am to oogabooga68
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:30 am to AggieHank86
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I am NOT being a smartass. Why do you assert that his possession of the handgun was illegal? The only argument I have seen is related to his conditional release from several years earlier. If there is something else that made his possession of the firearm "illegal," what is it?
Lefty was a convicted felon from what is being reported online..
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:38 am to FreddieMac
quote:Yes, there was a great deal of early speculation to that effect. It turned-out to be false.
Lefty was a convicted felon from what is being reported online
There is no evidence anywhere that Grosskreutz has committed a felony crime. He was, however, found guilty in 2016 of breaking Wisconsin’s law governing the use of dangerous weapons — a misdemeanor offense — per Milwaukee County court records. He had apparently gone somewhere “armed while intoxicated.” He pleaded and got a one-year conditional release (which, among other things, prevented him from possessing a firearm during that year), the terms of which he successfully completed in 2017.
Upon completion of his conditional release, all of his rights would have been restored, giving him exactly the same "firearm rights" as any other resident of Wisconsin.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:40 am to AggieHank86
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There is no evidence anywhere that Grosskreutz has committed a felony crime.
Other than attempting to assault Kyle, you are correct. But by his own admission, Kyle was justified in his actions with lefty.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:42 am to FreddieMac
quote:Just a moment ago, you asserted that "Lefty was a convicted felon," but let's set that aside for a moment.quote:Other than attempting to assault Kyle, you are correct
There is no evidence anywhere that Grosskreutz has committed a felony crime.
Attempted assault is an alleged crime for which Lefty has not been convicted.
So, I ask again "How was Lefty prohibited from possessing a handgun on the night in question?"
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:43 am to AggieHank86
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So, I ask again "How was Lefty prohibited from possessing a handgun on the night in question?"
It was a concealed weapon. He was not wearing it for open carry. If he had it in his pocket, it was illegal unless he has a permit. If it is wearing it in open view, then his possession should be fine.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:45 am
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