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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:04 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:04 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Oh look, another ignorant a-hole hopping in on the fun.
I lived there until last year and I have an entire family that I care about there including women. It’s also part of the big prolife platform so I won’t STFU.
I happen to like where I live, but Louisiana is going to get exactly what they asked for with a more overwhelmed welfare system and neglected kids if they don’t fix something.
And it’s funny that you blame teachers for fricking kids up during COVID. I didn’t choose lockdowns or distance learning. That was the government, I’m sorry that’s news to you and that you actually embarrassed yourself on a message board saying that. Parents can take responsibility for their own kids, including you so shuuut it.
Go seethe with Scotty
I lived there until last year and I have an entire family that I care about there including women. It’s also part of the big prolife platform so I won’t STFU.
I happen to like where I live, but Louisiana is going to get exactly what they asked for with a more overwhelmed welfare system and neglected kids if they don’t fix something.
And it’s funny that you blame teachers for fricking kids up during COVID. I didn’t choose lockdowns or distance learning. That was the government, I’m sorry that’s news to you and that you actually embarrassed yourself on a message board saying that. Parents can take responsibility for their own kids, including you so shuuut it.
Go seethe with Scotty
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 2:19 pm
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again no one is debating this. The issue is when the cells become a sentient human
Again, a human life is not defined by sentience
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:17 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Again, a human life is not defined by sentience
SPF does have a point.
Sentience does play a large role in what values we assign to other lifeforms.
That's why we can develop and sell neurotoxins that pretty savagely kill insects but have issue with putting a bonobo in a cage even though it's well fed and taken care of.
Is there any doubt that if somehow a 1 week old zygote could read, write, speak, and enjoy art abortion would absolutely be seen as murder and be subject to significant jail time?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:23 pm to Warrior Court
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married over 20 years.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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she would have no say in that impact.
The man has zero say either way.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:52 pm to madamtiger
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#1 Calling women whores and sluts that need their consequences...should have kept their legs closed is usually not equally thrown out about the man that also helped create the pregnancy. BOTH need to be discussed
Until the man has a say-so in the process, this argument is squat. I have known several men who wanted the baby, but the woman killed it.
Also, in modern society, the woman has the last and final say over when she has sex. With a full isle of over the counter means of birth control at her disposal 24/7, there is no excuse. She has the ability to stop the man at any time. She sould own up to that and not pass the buck.
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2 The threads have been exhaustive about the unborn's life or lack of. It has been beaten to death. You want to change the hearts and minds of pro-choice people? Start talking about what new can do to support women who have an unplanned pregnancy. What safety nets can we provide for job security or unrealized complications that result in medical bills that she will be stuck with? Or time off for birth? Most of the people that comment on here are men and remember, the men in this situation don't have any of this burden
Most of this sounds like sour grapes. YOU made the choice to get pregnant with the child of a POS. No one else. Suck it up. If this bothers you, you should not have shared on a public forum.
Only the first few ideas are valid. When does life begin? For me, that is pretty easy. When does one develop self-awareness? It is in the womb.
This should be the starting point of
the discussion.
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#3 Society is going to shite. We all agree. Pumping more unwanted kids into an overloaded system with parents having no consequences for neglecting or abusing kids has got to end.
This entire frame of argument is...well...silly. Is the word more shite today than any other time? Seriously. I hazard to say no. Kids watching over siblings? Really? Better than working the fields to provide for family as they did throughout the bulk of history. Of course, with you being a teacher, you knew this when you typed it.
This is a very important topic. Do us a favor next time you decide to talk about it. Leave the emotion out of it. Over 85% of what ypu typed is emotion driven and gets the conversation no where.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:58 pm to scottydoesntknow
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haha another low T manlet who simps on the internet and lets his woman dominate him. You are a loser
you're making a lot of assumptions but what I know about you is you have spent your entire weekend on this website arguing abortion and disrespecting a conservative woman while doing it.
sweet life.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:17 pm to Azkiger
He has no point and neither do you. Life begins at conception. That is a biological fact. Using sentience to determine life is merely framing the argument to justify taking human life.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:23 pm to tommy2tone1999
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He has no point and neither do you.
Sure, if you ignore the point then it doesn't exist to you.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:36 pm to Azkiger
Sentience does not define human life. I didn’t ignore it, I addressed it head on and completely disproved it.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:40 pm to UtahCajun
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ntil the man has a say-so in the process, this argument is squat. I have known several men who wanted the baby, but the woman killed it.
She should have to pay me half of the potential NIL money our kid could have made.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:45 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Sentience does not define human life
My wife's uncle sustained significant head trauma in a motor vehicle accident. He made the unwise choice of forgoing his helmet because the diner him and his buddies were riding to was literally 1/8th mile from their motel (friendly road trip).
A car pulled out in front of him, caused a wreck, he was rushed to the ER, and unfortunately, even though they opened his skull to relive the internal pressure from brain swelling, it was too late. 2 months later he was still brain dead and the family decided to pull the plug.
I suspect you think that they killed him? I mean, his lack of sentience made him no less of a person, right?
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I addressed it head on and completely disproved it.
No, you just asserted I was wrong without explanation.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:50 pm to madamtiger
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And it’s funny that you blame teachers for fricking kids up during COVID. I didn’t choose lockdowns or distance learning. That was the government, I’m sorry that’s news to you and that you actually embarrassed yourself on a message board saying that. Parents can take responsibility for their own kids, including you so shuuut it.
Go seethe with Scotty
A teacher that doesn’t know what she is talking about. Please tell us about the teachers union involvement in closing schools. Oh and you are ignorant if you think Republicans want to take away your abortions. Legit conservatives said Roe v Wade was unconstitutional. If you had a smidgen of intelligence, well you would first not likely be a teacher, but you would understand the legal stance on what is a Federal matter and a State matter.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:55 pm to madamtiger
Over the counter birth control is $18 a month at Target. Cell phones, nail jobs, car insurance… life is about priorities. Everyone can hem and haw about how the man should be responsible, and women shouldn’t have to be the ones that worry. But that doesn’t tend to work out well for the woman.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:01 pm to Azkiger
I don’t think you understand the concept of sentience. That is not a matter of sentience because only his bodily functions were being maintained after his brain stopped working. Keep reaching and framing.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:05 pm to Warrior Court
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you're making a lot of assumptions but what I know about you is you have spent your entire weekend on this website arguing abortion and disrespecting a conservative woman while doing it.
sweet life.
Manlets always repeat the same insults that women use
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:11 pm to Azkiger
The explanation is as I repeated. Human life is not defined by sentience, it is defined by biology which states life begins at conception. Reading comprehension really isn’t your thing is it?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:12 pm to tommy2tone1999
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That is not a matter of sentience because only his bodily functions were being maintained after his brain stopped working.
So what if he were lucid, but still needed assistance maintaining his vitals?
According to you this change in sentience is irrelevant to whether or not we're still dealing with a person and the outcome (pulling the plug) should still occur.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:15 pm to Azkiger
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Advocating for self accountability is a pro-life talking point, not a pro- choice talking point.
Why are men exempt from accountability? If a man 100% does not want his potential offspring to be aborted, he should not engage in the only activity that could result in a pregnancy. If he chooses to engage in the only activity that could result in a pregnancy, he is choosing to risk his partner potentially getting an abortion.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:16 pm to 4cubbies
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Why are men exempt from accountability?
They're not. Women are. That was the point you, likely purposefully, missed.
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