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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:27 pm to tommy2tone1999
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:27 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Human life is not defined by sentience, it is defined by biology which states life begins at conception
All life is defined by "moment of conception", even the life of bacteria.
Argument is, is it wrong to end life that is not aware that it is alive as of yet?
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:28 pm to 4cubbies
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Society values profits over babies. We would rather have decreasing birth rates than make it feasible for most women to have babies. We need women back at work immediately- to hell with the newborn. And good luck paying for daycare after taking 6 weeks unpaid leave to physically recover from birthing a human being.
Completely separate discussion and irrelevant to the topic
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:28 pm to NC_Tigah
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Good f*cking grief!
Please do tell us how a sexually naive 12y/o in a dysfunctional household who is raped by a relative has access to the morning after pill or the wherewithal to pursue it subsequent to the emotional disorientation of her rape.
Idiot!
Adam Banks will be along to tell you that abortion should be illegal in all cases including rape and incest,,,,,,and if it costs us the election then that is OK too.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:30 pm to madamtiger
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#1 man that also helped create the pregnancy. BOTH need to be discussed
Of course,
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#2 The threads have been exhaustive about the unborn's life or lack of. It has been beaten to death.
If it's a life then it is murder, it's not something that can be glossed over.
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#3 Society is going to shite. We all agree.
A culture of death since 1972 has been heavily driving society into the toilet. Roe was the start to much of this. You can't pretend you hate the crime and drug issues without acknowledging that Roe was a huge driver to this.
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I truly believe in the exceptions.
If it's an exception we should have no problem at calling it legalized Murder. You want your daughter to have the right to murder the innocent child of a rapist.
Yes, that's what you want, and most Americans would vote for that. So lets be honest with our language.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:31 pm to wackatimesthree
So just go make everyone more personally responsible.
I'll wait here.
you're going to be waiting for a while. you ever been to N. Alabama? Trump country and some of the trashiest. They handle snakes in church up there.
I'll wait here.
you're going to be waiting for a while. you ever been to N. Alabama? Trump country and some of the trashiest. They handle snakes in church up there.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:34 pm to CubsFanBudMan
quote:An all inclusive law is about the one time it does happen.
How many times does that happen and why should federal elections hinge on that scenario?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:35 pm to madamtiger
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I honestly wanted to have a talk about what’s going to now happen with the new bans
Specifically, what bans are you talking about? Yeah, most states tightened up their abortion laws a bit, but I am sure everyone can agree that abortion should not be available up to and including birth (unless healtg of mom or child is in question). All states have loopholes for incest, rape and health concerns. In fact abortion in tUSA is still easier or just as easy as all other modern nations. Most of the concerns I have heard is just fear mongering.
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This has turned into a defense of my life and
Sorry if you felt attacked. The way to defend against that is to stop telling strangers online all the details of your private life. Once you make it public, you have allowed others to make judgements.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:35 pm to scottydoesntknow
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The problem is that men are so reckless and stupid that even though they can’t support a fruit fly, they run around impregnating as many women as they can.
FIFY
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Some people consider birth control the same as abortion.
What a stupid take..not surprised from the one who said it though...
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:38 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Completely separate discussion and irrelevant to the topic
100% relevant. Many women get abortions when they can’t afford to have a baby. How is that irrelevant to this discussion?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:38 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:bullshite!
We already force child support.
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The problem is that women are so reckless and stupid
You believe in the toothfairy too?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:38 pm to UtahCajun
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Sorry if you felt attacked. The way to defend against that is to stop telling strangers online all the details of your private life. Once you make it public, you have allowed others to make judgements.
nah you could have just been a decent person - she was trying to make a discussion on a discussion board.
incels took over and here we are.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:39 pm to UtahCajun
quote:Let's address the 6 week bans. Start there.
Specifically, what bans are you talking about?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:43 pm to UtahCajun
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. The way to defend against that is to stop telling strangers online all the details of your private life. Once you make it public, you have allowed others to make judgements.
frick you I'm guessing from your public info that you're Mormon so stop worshiping Adam Smith and the marriage of young girls in your church should probably also stop.
see how that works?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:45 pm to hogcard1964
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hogcard1964
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Okay genius.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:46 pm to Warrior Court
Utah Cajun are you Mormon?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:46 pm to 4cubbies
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It’s a societal issue. Would women seek abortions if society valued women, children or families? I’m currently 8 months pregnant and my government employer offers zero parental leave. I’m married with two kids already. In this economy, can a woman afford to forego 6-12 weeks of wages to recover from birthing a human and to keep said human alive? Obviously I didn’t have an abortion nor did the possibility cross my mind, but people who are so concerned with the financial implications of an unwanted pregnancy for MEN fail to consider the financial implications of any pregnancy for women.
Society values profits over babies. We would rather have decreasing birth rates than make it feasible for most women to have babies. We need women back at work immediately- to hell with the newborn. And good luck paying for daycare after taking 6 weeks unpaid leave to physically recover from birthing a human being.
What the hell does any of this have to do with abortion? Sounds like you are upset with the "company" you work for about the benefits they provide. Having a kid is a financial decision. My wife was paid short term disability for both of her pregnancies. She saved up her PTO to supplement things.
Daycare is expensive. The IRS tax code allows for dependent care FSA. Unfortunately the limit hasn't been increased from $5k in forever. Let's address the tax code instead of encouraging abortions
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:49 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Society values profits over babies. We would rather have decreasing birth rates than make it feasible for most women to have babies. We need women back at work immediately- to hell with the newborn. And good luck paying for daycare after taking 6 weeks unpaid leave to physically recover from birthing a human being.
Completely separate discussion and irrelevant to the topic
did you really spend your whole weekend on this message board arguing with strangers? damn dude. that's fricking sad.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:50 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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What the hell does any of this have to do with abortion?
If you can’t see the connection between abortion and financial ruin for women after delivering a baby, then I’m not sure you belong in this discussion.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:52 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:Wrong question relative to the response you're addressing. Relative to the response, you OBVIOUSLY meant to ask has ANY state banned ANY abortions which would not have been BANNED under R v W?
Has any State banned any and ALL Abortions?
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