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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:58 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:58 pm to 4cubbies
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The problem is that men are so reckless and stupid that even though they can’t support a fruit fly, they run around impregnating as many women as they can.
That's biology. Every male dog is going to hump everything it can. As a feminist, you should admit women are smarter and more powerful than men. Why do you allow stupid dogs to control outcomes?
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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Let's address the 6 week bans. Start there.
That seems to be too soon for the mother to be, or not to first realize she's prego and then go through the decision-making process.
I am closer to Trump and maybe 16 weeks. When can you hear the heart beat?
I woke up my honeymoon morning to "don't touch me, I'm pregnant".
I was 25 years old and although I love kids, I had no immediate plans for any, yet. My first thought and comment was abort. Wrong thing to say and really put a damper on the honeymoon.
Anyway, here we are 44 years later and my oldest Son is married and living life large.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:10 pm to NC_Tigah
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No, nitwit. They banned it. Period. Full Stop!
So they didn't try then, did they?
Also, limiting abortions to 6 weeks or prior isn't a ban, it's a restriction.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:21 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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That's biology. Every male dog is going to hump everything it can. As a feminist, you should admit women are smarter and more powerful than men.
Men are capable of self-control and forethought.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:22 pm to 4cubbies
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FIFY
Where did women's agency go in that atrocity of a post?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:22 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:Me as well.
I am closer to Trump and maybe 16 weeks.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:41 pm to 4cubbies
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If you can’t see the connection between abortion and financial ruin for women after delivering a baby, then I’m not sure you belong in this discussion.
Yep, a page ago I said this: "I understand that 97-98% of abortions are due to convivence where the doctors aren't practicing healthcare and instead are acting as economic advisors cutting costs..."
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:43 pm to Azkiger
quote:They not only tried, they did it.
So they didn't try then, did they?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:59 pm to Warrior Court
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nah you could have just been a decent person - she was trying to make a discussion on a discussion board.
incels took over and here we are
I consider my responses to her to be extremely decent. She used her past as justification no one else. Considering this, it was fair game.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:01 pm to Warrior Court
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frick you I'm guessing from your public info that you're Mormon so stop worshiping Adam Smith and the marriage of young girls in your church should probably also stop.
see how that works
Nope. I do not see how that works. I made no statements about my personal life, she did.
My public info, in which you point to also says "Cajun". I have yet to meet a Cajun Mormon. They may be out there, but I ain't one.
You made assumptions. I did not. Thanks for playing.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:07 pm to madamtiger
Cuck values
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:17 pm to NC_Tigah
I’m more like 10 weeks.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:29 pm to madamtiger
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#3 Society is going to shite.
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#3 I truly believe in the exceptions
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I'm a teacher
This is problematic. You cannot count. Everything is an exception with regard to abortion for you bleeding hearts. The numbers simply don't support 1 million exceptions.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:11 pm to Azkiger
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So if he's lucid but still needs life support it'd be murder to kill him.
But if he's not lucid and needs life support it's ok to kill him?
There's only one thing here that's changing.
Sentience.
There's a difference between passive euthanasia and active destruction of a fetus.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 9:28 pm to 4cubbies
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So why are they having sex?
Because they enjoy having sex and traditional Judaeo-Christian values in America have been replaced with moral relativism, so they feel no obligation to get married first, and because women give it up to them.
Did you really not know the answer to that question?
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Men are choosing to have sex knowing that sex is the only way a pregnancy can occur, then playing the victim if their sexual partners get pregnant.
I genuinely don't know what you mean by that. What does "playing the victim mean?" Complaining because they are forced at the point of a gun to support a baby financially?
If so, surely you understand why.
Woman are allowed to act irresponsibly in America with regard to this issue and simply transfer their burden of responsibility to the unborn. They can choose to make the unborn pay for their decisions with their lives.
Men do not have a choice. They don't get to order the death of the child just so they don't have to pay for it like the women can.
So sure, it takes both and both act irresponsibly when a casual pregnancy occurs. But only one of the two gets a choice about what to do about it.
The only way to solve that double standard is to either give both a choice or neither a choice. THEN they can be regarded equally with regard to this question.
Since you really want them to be regarded equally, which of those two options do you favor?
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Society values profits over babies.
Of course it does. That's why abortion is legal in the first place. The state doesn't want to financially take care of all of those children. It's also why the double standard I just posted about above exists. They want to force the fathers to take care of the babies instead of the government b/c they don't want the expense.
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We would rather have decreasing birth rates than make it feasible for most women to have babies.
If you have answered this question before I missed it.
Why is it the government's job to "make it feasible" for women to have babies?
You keep saying that as though its self-evident. It's not.
If you want to get anywhere with that, you're going to have to actually make a case for why that's the government's job.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:58 pm to Warrior Court
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did you really spend your whole weekend on this message board arguing with strangers? damn dude. that's fricking sad.
nope, nice projection though manlet
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:45 am to wackatimesthree
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Because they enjoy having sex and traditional Judaeo-Christian values in America have been replaced with moral relativism, so they feel no obligation to get married first, and because women give it up to them.
Why are you making excuses for the irresponsible behavior of men while vilifying the women these irresponsible men get pregnant?
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Did you really not know the answer to that question?
I wanted to see what bs excuse for men you would come up with. You did not disappoint.
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Complaining because they are forced at the point of a gun to support a baby financially?
Man chooses to engage in the ONLY activity that could result in pregnancy and now he’s “forced at the point of a gun” to deal with the consequences of his actions? Why are men too stupid to know where babies come from? Is that your defense here? That men can’t possibly know that sex leads to pregnancy so we should absolve them if responsibility for their actions while women shoulder all of the responsibility because… men are idiots? I just want to make sure I’m understanding your point.
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Woman are allowed to act irresponsibly in America with regard to this issue and simply transfer their burden of responsibility to the unborn. They can choose to make the unborn pay for their decisions with their lives.
Pregnancy, particularly in the first trimester, is brutal for women. Getting an abortion is costly and horrific for women . You act like getting an abortion is akin to getting a haircut. You must think pregnancy and childbirth are equally easy for women. Women literally shoulder all of the burdens of having a baby while men complain about everything.
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Men do not have a choice. They don't get to order the death of the child just so they don't have to pay for it like the women can.
Men don’t have to have sex. Men can get vasectomies. Men don’t have to ejaculate inside of vaginas. Men have plenty of choices. You just don’t want to have to deny yourself of any of your whims.
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But only one of the two gets a choice about what to do about it.
Is this some sort it highly guarded secret? Are men incapable of understanding this? Their choice is made before conception.
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The only way to solve that double standard is to either give both a choice or neither a choice. THEN they can be regarded equally with regard to this question.
Or we can hold men responsible for their actions, just as women are. If you are arguing that men legitimately don’t know where babies come from and therefore can’t be held responsible for having sex that results in pregnancy, shouldn’t you be advocating for an education campaign to teach this country full of ignorant men basic biology?
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Why is it the government's job to "make it feasible" for women to have babies?
It’s society’s job. Unless you don’t think you’ll need any services in your old age and can provide your own medical, automotive, carpentry, plumbing, electrical, etc. expertise.
Don’t complain about immigration if you don’t see the value in Americans reproducing.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:21 am to 4cubbies
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quote:That's biology. Every male dog is going to hump everything it can. As a feminist, you should admit women are smarter and more powerful than men. Men are capable of self-control and forethought.
If OP had picked a man like this to begin with, she wouldnt have made this thread
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:32 am to madamtiger
As a woman, let me say this:
In today’s world there are over 20 types of birth control- including the morning after pill.
There is little excuse for unwanted or unplanned pregnancies. Abortion should not be an acceptable form of birth control - if for no other reason it does in fact cause long-term damage to a woman’s body.
Yes, there should be exceptions for cases of incest, rape, and life of the mother- rare.
In alleged cases of rape and incest there should be criminal indictments to go with it.
Furthermore, any female found to have falsely accused a male of rape should get double the maximum sentence the falsely accused was facing.
In today’s world there are over 20 types of birth control- including the morning after pill.
There is little excuse for unwanted or unplanned pregnancies. Abortion should not be an acceptable form of birth control - if for no other reason it does in fact cause long-term damage to a woman’s body.
Yes, there should be exceptions for cases of incest, rape, and life of the mother- rare.
In alleged cases of rape and incest there should be criminal indictments to go with it.
Furthermore, any female found to have falsely accused a male of rape should get double the maximum sentence the falsely accused was facing.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:38 am to madamtiger
Yes, Republicans need to do a much better job: case in point, Walz nearly cried on stage telling the story on how he and his wife struggled with conceiving children and the ups and down of fertility treatments and then the pure joy of finding out the wife was pregnant. And, then, he points to his two kids and all the love was shown at the convention. The Republicans need to use Walt’s story and say we live life, we love babies, just think Tim if you had driven your wife to the abortion clinic you Dems so profusely promote, you could be a fatherless candidate!
Also, Repubs need to point out that Obamacare promotes and pays for all birth control drugs; as well as, abortions.
Also, Repubs need to point out that Obamacare promotes and pays for all birth control drugs; as well as, abortions.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 7:41 am
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