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re: Alabama authorities arrest 15 people in human trafficking sting
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:35 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:35 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
The fact that you think this should make a difference speaks volumes
If we're talking about the term "human trafficking" it makes a huge difference.
Again, you're making my point (that the Police State has intentionally expanded what the term means to expand power over us citizens) that I make in all of these threads. You are melting down trying to turn something that is nowhere near "trafficking" into the monster of "human trafficking"
It's terrible in its own right. Why force the obsfucation?
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 2:36 pm
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:36 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Every time sex trafficking of children is brought up on this board you fall all over yourself to try and downplay its existence.
That's a straw man.
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stop stamping your feet that sex trafficking of children doesn’t exist.
This only exists in your mind. I've never said that.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:quote
You do know that police pretend to be minors and arrest perps for these crimes
And I have no problem with that at all
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:38 pm to thebigmuffaletta
As long as this is happening at a higher rate in Thailand it’s not a big deal.—
SFP
SFP
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
If we're talking about the term "human trafficking" it makes a huge difference.
Because you’re a clown who’s convinced himself that attempting to traffic children for sex is “just prostitution”.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:46 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Because you’re a clown who’s convinced himself that attempting to traffic children for sex is “just prostitution”.
a. There was no attempt to "Traffic" any minors. There was an attempt to solicit and possibly rape minors (that didn't exist).
b. This crime is "solicitation of a minor". Using the term "human trafficking" is to appease emotional thinkers so they support the state increasing power over the population.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There was no attempt to "Traffic" any minors.
Wrong! The police arrested the suspect for attempting to traffic a minor. It’s right there in the article but because you’re a pedophile defender you want to ignore it.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:02 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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The police arrested the suspect for attempting to traffic a minor.
Clearly you can't read.
quote:
. It’s right there in the article but because you’re a pedophile defender you want to ignore it.
For the 1000th time:
quote:
the Police State has intentionally expanded what the term means to expand power over us citizens
quote:
Using the term "human trafficking" is to appease emotional thinkers so they support the state increasing power over the population.
You are doing the bidding of a government trying to expand authoritarianism over all of us.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:05 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
thebigmuffaletta
I'll make this even easier since it's so hard for you.
If Alabama changed the name of this law/crime to "educate" instead of "Traffic", would you then argue that soliciting a minor for sex was "educating" the minor?
Of course not. That's absurd.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:38 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:This word "servitude" seems to be the lynchpin to all these trafficking charges. Serious question: Was the guy looking to place the child in question into "servitude" and start trafficking her, or was he soliciting prostitution?
solicit a minor to engage in sexual servitude
Don't get me wrong: the guy is a sick dude and all of this sexual perversion is bad. It just seems like law enforcement is using a new tool (human trafficking) far beyond its original intention.
Almost seems like the demand for human trafficking arrests/convictions far outstrips the supply.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 3:42 pm to TDFreak
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This word "servitude" seems to be the lynchpin to all these trafficking charges. Serious question: Was the guy looking to place the child in question into "servitude" and start trafficking her, or was he soliciting prostitution?
No
and
watch your butt for questioning the state narrative.
quote:
Don't get me wrong: the guy is a sick dude and all of this sexual perversion is bad. It just seems like law enforcement is using a new tool (human trafficking) far beyond its original intention.
quote:
Almost seems like the demand for human trafficking arrests/convictions far outstrips the supply.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
You should all read ‘Renting Lacy’ and open your eyes to how terrible and disgusting trafficking of minors for sex is in the United States.
While Slow Flo wants to debate definitions the truth is close to 100,000 children are trafficked inside the US. These are not kids from other countries. These are our children. It’s become cheaper to traffic them within their own country then somewhere else.
What’s most disgusting is the reason this has become such a problem is because the demand exists for it. This guy from Alabama did not get entrapped in anything. The POS was looking to rape a child and got caught!
Most of the prostitutes start as early as 11-12. Not some. Most.
From the book:
Commentary - How Does It Happen?
"They like what they do. "
"They don't want to work real jobs. They make so much more money."
"They chose it.
"They could leave it if they wanted to."
"There are places they can go for help."
These are some of the many comments I hear concerning prostituted women. But according to the U.S. Department of Justice, the average age of entry into prostitution is 12 to 14 and a child this young is ill-equipped to make adult decisions.
Certainly many of the girls I've met believe they chose the life of a prostitute, though in some cases they started at 11 or 12 years of age. They insist they made their own choice, although it's clear they were actually not choosing to be used, sold, and abused.
They say it was their decision to exist in this world - yet clearly it's a world where they've been gang-raped, sodomized, repeatedly beaten, raped with objects, threatened, strangled, tortured, dehumanized, burned with cigarettes, videotaped, humiliated.
The reason an 11 year old child is sold into a life of prostitution inside the US is because of the DEMAND for the ‘product’
Think about that
While Slow Flo wants to debate definitions the truth is close to 100,000 children are trafficked inside the US. These are not kids from other countries. These are our children. It’s become cheaper to traffic them within their own country then somewhere else.
What’s most disgusting is the reason this has become such a problem is because the demand exists for it. This guy from Alabama did not get entrapped in anything. The POS was looking to rape a child and got caught!
Most of the prostitutes start as early as 11-12. Not some. Most.
From the book:
Commentary - How Does It Happen?
"They like what they do. "
"They don't want to work real jobs. They make so much more money."
"They chose it.
"They could leave it if they wanted to."
"There are places they can go for help."
These are some of the many comments I hear concerning prostituted women. But according to the U.S. Department of Justice, the average age of entry into prostitution is 12 to 14 and a child this young is ill-equipped to make adult decisions.
Certainly many of the girls I've met believe they chose the life of a prostitute, though in some cases they started at 11 or 12 years of age. They insist they made their own choice, although it's clear they were actually not choosing to be used, sold, and abused.
They say it was their decision to exist in this world - yet clearly it's a world where they've been gang-raped, sodomized, repeatedly beaten, raped with objects, threatened, strangled, tortured, dehumanized, burned with cigarettes, videotaped, humiliated.
The reason an 11 year old child is sold into a life of prostitution inside the US is because of the DEMAND for the ‘product’
Think about that
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:24 pm to amsterdam
quote:
Al’Shon Tupactre Latrell Walker, 21
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:24 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Is this another thread about police hotties posing as women "in need" getting 65y/o widowers to pull over for a proposition?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
And another excerpt:
Commentary - Who Buys A Child?
I've asked myself again and again.
Who are these men, and sometimes women, who lust after a child?
How can there be each and every year so many men in our country who create the demand for at least 100,000 children in the United States alone ... children being used night after night by men beyond number?
The sheer volume is staggering.
This entire gigantic industry - populated by pimps and facilitators, greased by marketing and millions of dollars - all comes down to one man: the individual man who wants to have sex, or to fantasize about having sex, with a girl or a boy.
What destroyed the moral compass in so many individuals to create such a massive demand? Why is it tolerated in our culture? Where is the feeling of terror, of horror, if there are so many men around us who actually want to have sex with our children?
We should all be asking these questions. And we should be working for change. Because for all of our organization's fighting against it, for all of Shared Hope's work saving and restoring the lives of victims, for all our crafting of new legislation and striving to influence our criminal system - after a decade of continuous, intensive labor - the tragedy goes on.
Where something is wanted, for a price, someone will find a way to provide it.
It's time to stop the demand.
Commentary - Who Buys A Child?
I've asked myself again and again.
Who are these men, and sometimes women, who lust after a child?
How can there be each and every year so many men in our country who create the demand for at least 100,000 children in the United States alone ... children being used night after night by men beyond number?
The sheer volume is staggering.
This entire gigantic industry - populated by pimps and facilitators, greased by marketing and millions of dollars - all comes down to one man: the individual man who wants to have sex, or to fantasize about having sex, with a girl or a boy.
What destroyed the moral compass in so many individuals to create such a massive demand? Why is it tolerated in our culture? Where is the feeling of terror, of horror, if there are so many men around us who actually want to have sex with our children?
We should all be asking these questions. And we should be working for change. Because for all of our organization's fighting against it, for all of Shared Hope's work saving and restoring the lives of victims, for all our crafting of new legislation and striving to influence our criminal system - after a decade of continuous, intensive labor - the tragedy goes on.
Where something is wanted, for a price, someone will find a way to provide it.
It's time to stop the demand.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:26 pm to Rebel
quote:
he claims doesn’t exist
False
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:40 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Is this another thread about police hotties posing as women "in need" getting 65y/o widowers to pull over for a proposition?
No. Police posing as minors, but similar operation.
At least I'm 95% sure it's one of those.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
You love pedophiles
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:30 pm to amsterdam
quote:
amsterdam
Correct on all points. SOME people here apparently believe you can solicit a minor for sex without their being some kind of trafficking involved, when that is obviously false just from a logical perspective.
If you're planning to meet a 14 year old for sex, how are they getting to whatever location you're meeting them at? They aren't driving themselves.
How does a 14 year old girl randomly decide to start having sex with old guys for money? It is almost always put into their mind by an adult figure.
How are they managing the financial/business side of the transaction? Again, an adult is involved.
It's not like these things aren't obvious to anyone who thinks for a few moments.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
where is the trafficking
Agreed.
No sympathy for these scumbags, but law enforcement tries to tack on "trafficking" to everything.
It's basically a form of marketing for them.
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