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Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:34 am to DyeHardDylan
The Vance pick is part of the current civil war in the Republican Party. The establishment globalist / internationalist “please don’t call me a Nazi - I’ll let you win” wing, versus the still developing nationalist / populist, reactionary (move right, not just slowly left) wing.
The establishment / globalist slow-walked most of what Trump tried to do in the first Trump administration. That’s why there is so much talk of really gutting the bureaucrats in the appointed offices and as much of the senior civil-service as possible, and placing Trump loyalist.
I think, Trump sees J. D. Vance as someone who can lead the nationalist / populist reactionary wing, and a refocused Republican Party.
The same thing is happening in Texas right now. The power of the rich University Park / River Oaks /Austin lawyers versus the rich “new money' oil men and entrepreneurs. With Texas House speaker Dade Phelan championing the RINOs and Attorney General Ken Paxton Championing the “MAGA’ish” side. In the recent TX primaries, the reactionary / nationalist candidates defeated, something like, 16 of the 18 targeted RINOs.
The Democrats are also in a two or three sided civil war. The waining almost dead, “big globalist business is good, it is leading us to Scandinavian style socialism” wing think Pelosi and Schumer. The 1990’s-ish liberals for whom identity politics are the primary motivation (along with getting very wealthy themeless (not you), Obama. And, finally the Frankenstein’s monster lovechild of the other two the hyper woke, “BURN IT ALL!!!” radicals, think “the Squad” - BLM - ANTIFA.
Fun time in politics these days - as long as the bullets aren’t flying.
The establishment / globalist slow-walked most of what Trump tried to do in the first Trump administration. That’s why there is so much talk of really gutting the bureaucrats in the appointed offices and as much of the senior civil-service as possible, and placing Trump loyalist.
I think, Trump sees J. D. Vance as someone who can lead the nationalist / populist reactionary wing, and a refocused Republican Party.
The same thing is happening in Texas right now. The power of the rich University Park / River Oaks /Austin lawyers versus the rich “new money' oil men and entrepreneurs. With Texas House speaker Dade Phelan championing the RINOs and Attorney General Ken Paxton Championing the “MAGA’ish” side. In the recent TX primaries, the reactionary / nationalist candidates defeated, something like, 16 of the 18 targeted RINOs.
The Democrats are also in a two or three sided civil war. The waining almost dead, “big globalist business is good, it is leading us to Scandinavian style socialism” wing think Pelosi and Schumer. The 1990’s-ish liberals for whom identity politics are the primary motivation (along with getting very wealthy themeless (not you), Obama. And, finally the Frankenstein’s monster lovechild of the other two the hyper woke, “BURN IT ALL!!!” radicals, think “the Squad” - BLM - ANTIFA.
Fun time in politics these days - as long as the bullets aren’t flying.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:40 am to wadewilson
I could care less I’m an eye for an eye guy curses time is over son. Pick a side your for good or evil it’s that simple. If you like the shite happening now your fricked up time to eat crow is near
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:45 am to Northwestern tiger
More the reason to like the pick……
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:47 am to DyeHardDylan
It’s interesting that both Obama and Trump made establishment vp picks to give them credibility in DC. Those picks would ultimately be the biggest stains on their administrations.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:56 am to ole man
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:58 am to Vacherie Saint
Biden was not a bad pick for Obama. Biden is an idiot and a piece of shite, but in terms of getting their agendas passed and into law, Obama/Biden did better than any other administration in the 21st century.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 12:19 pm to wadewilson
From a legacy perspective Biden was a huge stain. Pence betrayed Trump, Obama betrayed Biden.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 12:45 pm to wadewilson
Keep laughing moterfricker
Posted on 7/27/24 at 3:10 pm to Northwestern tiger
I agree with him on somethings and disagree on others.
National Review disagreed with him on big tech. I think he is on to something. These tech companies are becoming bigger and more powerful than some governments. They destroyed the media industry. They are ruining generations of kids with their social media apps and getting them addicted to smartphones. They are started to control the election process. The bill of rights did not envision such a thing.
On tax policy, he is dead wrong. The Trump cuts were written by Paul Ryan, who based them on Reagan and Jack Kemp. Such tax plans have always worked. Period. Like Democrats, he wants to use the tax code for social engineering as does Rubio. Rubio opposed the Trump tax cuts for the same reason.
Vance hasn't been vetted by political experience. That means there are going to be some land mines with him.
National Review disagreed with him on big tech. I think he is on to something. These tech companies are becoming bigger and more powerful than some governments. They destroyed the media industry. They are ruining generations of kids with their social media apps and getting them addicted to smartphones. They are started to control the election process. The bill of rights did not envision such a thing.
On tax policy, he is dead wrong. The Trump cuts were written by Paul Ryan, who based them on Reagan and Jack Kemp. Such tax plans have always worked. Period. Like Democrats, he wants to use the tax code for social engineering as does Rubio. Rubio opposed the Trump tax cuts for the same reason.
Vance hasn't been vetted by political experience. That means there are going to be some land mines with him.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 4:55 pm to Breaux
butt hurt because Kameleon is useless? she is definitely the right candidate to replace Joe.
"The smartest woman in the world".
"The smartest woman in the world".
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:00 pm to DyeHardDylan
quote:
orst VP pick of all time has to be either Paul Ryan or John Edwards
Palin?
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:01 pm to chalmetteowl
Vance's views are extreme for mainstream America - we will see how it plays out in a few months.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:03 pm to Warrior Court
quote:
Vance's views are extreme for mainstream America
List them.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:12 pm to Norbert
So does Trump.
Vance is fine. It's a smart pick. Trump knew it didn't matter who it was, this isn't about the VP. It's about Trump and MAGA. And JD Vance is MAGA AF these days. Same as Trump.
If you don't like Trump, you're gonna hate Vance.
And I'm good with it.
Vance is fine. It's a smart pick. Trump knew it didn't matter who it was, this isn't about the VP. It's about Trump and MAGA. And JD Vance is MAGA AF these days. Same as Trump.
If you don't like Trump, you're gonna hate Vance.
And I'm good with it.
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