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re: Any Freemasons on this board?
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:02 pm to Antioch
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:02 pm to Antioch
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Antioch - 666 posts
quote:figures.
Why do you want to worship Lucifer?
I'm a mason since 1990.My dad was a mason. My grandpa was a Mason.
All of us made a profession of faith= saved. Christians.
My Uncle held high positions Within the craft. He was a deacon in his local Baptist church.
Nothing I have ever seen was worshiping satan. Quite the opposite.
Masonery is NOT a religion BUT you MUST believe in God to belong. God is at the center and the Holy Bible is displayed at ALL meetings.
No religious teachings takes place but every person in my lodge was a Christian except for one. He was a Jew.
So you can put the idea that worshiping lucifer takes place. NO WORSHIP services takes place BUT God is identified.
If satan was to be worshipped we did a piss poor job of it. In fact I can't remember his name coming up.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:06 pm to Bayoubred
quote:That's incorrect.
It is a secret attempt to do what the local Church is here to do.
I'm Baptist. We worship God and the Son of God in my church.
No such activities takes place in the lodge.
If you know men that think more of the lodge than their church you know men that are not following the teachings of the lodge.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:37 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Not a Freemason. Well-versed in the Mystery Schools and a member of one them.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:16 am to Redbone
I appreciate your position on the Church and worship but I think you are giving the Lodge too much credit. Also, I've heard Masonic recitations at gravesides many times and some statements in it are unscriptural.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:44 am to TigerOnTheMountain
The free masons do not condone the molestation of children and the systematic coverup of those activities. That’s the biggest difference I’ve gathered between the free masons and the Catholic Church.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:48 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Actually the religion that claims the title of having the most Freemason members in the US is Southern Baptist
Makes sense given the shared anti-catholic sentiment of both Masons and Southern Baptist’s.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:52 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Makes sense given the shared anti-catholic sentiment of both Masons and Southern Baptist’s.
And so the demonization of the Masons can be chalked up to the Catholics?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:54 am to Redbone
Is it not rooted in Christianity? I know my GF was a 33rd and mentored young guys, but seems like I remember him with his Bible?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:04 am to Bayoubred
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I appreciate your position on the Church and worship but I think you are giving the Lodge too much credit. Also, I've heard Masonic recitations at gravesides many times and some statements in it are unscriptural.
The following isn’t directed at you, specifically, but rather the line of questioning around the origins of the ritual.
A Masonic funeral incorporates traditions that go back to the building of King Solomon’s temple to God. The one that held the Ark of the Covenant. That’s likely why you didn’t recognize some of it. It’s Old Testament. Does anyone balk at the reading of the 23rd Psalms? The history behind the ritual predates the council of Nicaea - the meeting where the Roman Emperor’s delegates decided what was scripture and what wasn’t.
One of the main reasons the Freemasons don’t recruit is because you have to come to a favorable opinion of the order on your own first. Since Freemasons don’t yell “look at me! I did XYZ for charity!” at the Blue Lodge level, you would have to come about that opinion likely by the works and reputation of Masons that you know. Fruits of their labor, as it were. If someone thinks Freemasonry is evil or satanic or whatever else, that’s on them. They are not a fit for the order. I can guarantee that the investigation that goes on before the petition for membership is entertained would flush a lot of ordained ministers, priests and deacons. So, in that sense, I’m very comfortable sitting in the Lodge with those around me.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 8:18 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:12 am to riccoar
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Is it not rooted in Christianity? I know my GF was a 33rd and mentored young guys, but seems like I remember him with his Bible?
The first 3 degrees or “Blue Lodge” are based on God the Father, by whatever name you call Him - think Old Testament God. In the US, that’s 99% Christian. In the York Rite and Scottish Rites (4 through 32), there are appendant bodies (like the Knights Templar) that require devotion to Jesus Christ, specifically. So, they are a subset of the Blue Lodge.
There is no “higher” degree than the 3rd or Master Mason Degree. It is there that all Masons meet “on the level.” The 33rd degree is extremely rare and can only be bestowed the Council of the 33rd. I don’t know what exactly is required but you aren’t getting there without decades of service.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:36 am to Liberator
quote:This is exactly what people say who have done all their research on YouTube and cannot defend their position using their own intellect.
If you're truly interested, all that's needed is your eyes and heart; the internet will be your best and only necessary source(s) of all the truth you can handle on both, ma brutha.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:43 am to Tesla
He was a lifelong member. Two things he never talked about were Freemason stuff or his experience at Iwo Jima. They were known and family knew, but not openly discussed.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:11 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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I understand a lot of you are Catholic and obviously not a Freemason. I’ve been contemplating pursuing becoming a Freemason and was curious about others experiences with the organization.
I know quite a few Catholic Masons, not nearly as rare as they once were.
I have been a Mason for nearly 20 years, as was my father, grandfather, and countless uncles.
I would advise you to contact and visit a Lodge near your home and see if it is for you. Freemasonry is the largest and oldest Fraternity in the world and strives to make good men better. Never has it conflicted with my religious beliefs as a Christian. It isn't for everyone but I haven't regretted a single day of my membership in the Craft.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:54 am to zatetic
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So the lodge has a ladies Eastern Star group that meets there and you jump to Satan off that.
In an earlier post I said they had that and they could not account for why it was there. Freemasonry has a death pact for anyone joining so giving a vague answer to me sounded like a lie.
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There are literally thousands or uses by hundreds of groups and cultures throughout history but you are going with one.
I literally said the Satanism is related to top level stuff. Not joining lodges. But you are going with me saying all masons are satanists when I said no such thing.
You seem to have a hard time keeping your story straight. Good Luck finding the ghosts.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:59 am to TigerOnTheMountain
Consider it again after reading the following statement:
The Great Architect = Lucifer (aka Satan)
The Great Architect = Lucifer (aka Satan)
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:31 am to BR92
Since this thread is still going, I thought I would share a little. I hope it doesn't get me killed.
My father was a Mason. Turns out so were his brothers, who were serious Baptists and My grandmother on my mother's side was "Eastern Star".
None were rich but they had some serious stroke when I needed it, specifically with a problem I had getting my security clearance. Sorry, not going into that.
From what I understand, you have to believe in "GOD", as in any religion. Atheist need not apply.
He died several years ago and my mother passed a couple months ago at age 92.
That is when I got all this stuff. Aprons, pins and especially books. OLD books, published in 1912.
So, I thought WTH, I can take a picture, or two to help with understanding.
First is the Hebrew Bible and it comes with instructions as to which chapter/verse to read. In a different order than normal. My Dad was an interesting guy. Tall, very dark with flaming blue eyes and a rare blood type. Rh negative and he was a Master Seargent in the newly created Air Force. He spent his time in Saudi Arabia and all he ever told me about was it was hot.
So, I don't know if any of that matters, but it is just something I wanted to share. Yea, I know you may ask why I shared that? I don't know myself.
Now I will try to upload a couple pictures from a couple of these, very thick and OLD Books, that might clear up some stuff. Especially what they say they are about and this pentagram stuff.
Okay, the first picture screwed up so I will just share these 2.
My father was a Mason. Turns out so were his brothers, who were serious Baptists and My grandmother on my mother's side was "Eastern Star".
None were rich but they had some serious stroke when I needed it, specifically with a problem I had getting my security clearance. Sorry, not going into that.
From what I understand, you have to believe in "GOD", as in any religion. Atheist need not apply.
He died several years ago and my mother passed a couple months ago at age 92.
That is when I got all this stuff. Aprons, pins and especially books. OLD books, published in 1912.
So, I thought WTH, I can take a picture, or two to help with understanding.
First is the Hebrew Bible and it comes with instructions as to which chapter/verse to read. In a different order than normal. My Dad was an interesting guy. Tall, very dark with flaming blue eyes and a rare blood type. Rh negative and he was a Master Seargent in the newly created Air Force. He spent his time in Saudi Arabia and all he ever told me about was it was hot.
So, I don't know if any of that matters, but it is just something I wanted to share. Yea, I know you may ask why I shared that? I don't know myself.
Now I will try to upload a couple pictures from a couple of these, very thick and OLD Books, that might clear up some stuff. Especially what they say they are about and this pentagram stuff.
Okay, the first picture screwed up so I will just share these 2.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:33 am to Bayoubred
quote:I'm going to go with my thoughts being correct since I am a long time member that has sat through many closed meetings.
I think you are giving the Lodge too much credit.
quote:Not meant to be scriptural. It's not a church.
some statements in it are unscriptural.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:41 am to troyt37
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And so the demonization of the Masons can be chalked up to the Catholics?
Masons are quite anti-Catholic. I’m not demonizing them but staying a fact.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:45 am to 0
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I always figured it was a club for closeted homosexuals to go and be around a bunch of other sexually frustrated dudes.
That's Texas a&m!
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