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re: Anyone who requires government support should not be allowed to vote
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
They forfeit the right to vote while being a government dependent for 18 months or longer.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 5:38 pm
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:08 am to Metaloctopus
So where do you draw the line then?
You seem to resist anything that upsets the status quo.
You are personally afraid of something.
Are you not a net taxpayer?
You seem to resist anything that upsets the status quo.
You are personally afraid of something.
Are you not a net taxpayer?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:10 am to burger bearcat
1 bazillion % agree
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:36 am to burger bearcat
I agree with this.
I'm also in strong disagreement with a US FedGov that has open borders and then facilitates the illegal invasion by giving billions of dollars to charitable organizations so that the orgs can provide support, food, shelter and medical care to the tens of millions of invading illegal aliens.
This is a form of abuse of public trust, but, we should be used to it by now, because, until Trump, our FedGov did nothing but abuse the public trust.
I'm also in strong disagreement with a US FedGov that has open borders and then facilitates the illegal invasion by giving billions of dollars to charitable organizations so that the orgs can provide support, food, shelter and medical care to the tens of millions of invading illegal aliens.
This is a form of abuse of public trust, but, we should be used to it by now, because, until Trump, our FedGov did nothing but abuse the public trust.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:49 am to wallowinit
There are Americans who pay taxes for years; then have major health issues, or get into a major car wreck etc and can’t work any longer. Should these people not be allowed to vote?
Perhaps those that have been on welfare for generations and can work , but refuse, I get your point .
Perhaps those that have been on welfare for generations and can work , but refuse, I get your point .
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:55 am to TulsaSooner78
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How about corporations that receive welfare?
Corporations don't vote.
They do lobby for benefits though, and that presents the same conflict of interest issue that we have when voters vote for benefits.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:28 pm to wallowinit
If I am supposedly for the status quo, then why do I agree with work requirements and not subsidizing junk food, which currently is far from the status quo?
I think your demands are ridiculous. It has nothing to do with a personal fear. I don't live on welfare. But I also know people who work very hard, and are on food stamps to help them, and these people are not "losers". Some of you are full of yourselves.
I think your demands are ridiculous. It has nothing to do with a personal fear. I don't live on welfare. But I also know people who work very hard, and are on food stamps to help them, and these people are not "losers". Some of you are full of yourselves.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:37 pm to theballguy
I can tell who is on welfare by the responses in this thread.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:50 pm to Metaloctopus
There would be a very small minority that would fall in the gray area. If we can’t work with that, then we can’t do anything.
Legit good people caught in the margins are what food banks and charities are for.
Not for lazy asses that sit on their butt, demanding handouts
Legit good people caught in the margins are what food banks and charities are for.
Not for lazy asses that sit on their butt, demanding handouts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:58 pm to RFK
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I know, but that pesky Constitution…
The Constitution originally required voters to be free, white and 21 year old property owner. Now the requirements have become extremely loose and should be tightened up. Parasites and the mentally impaired shouldn't be allowed to vote. Neither should phantoms.
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:16 pm to burger bearcat
I’m sure you would consider exceptions right!
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:28 pm to RFK
Which was written when people who refused to work and sat on their lazy asses expecting a handout from daddy gubment.............
DIDN'T frickING EXIST!!!
DIDN'T frickING EXIST!!!
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:30 pm to burger bearcat
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But if someone feels they need to go onto welfare for a while, they have to agree to give up voting during that time.
Trump would have lost both times
Posted on 11/18/25 at 9:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The fact that it's a (sometimes fundamental) right. This would not pass any of the various judicial tests to burden that right.
Any sort of bargain that you're portraying would violate those rights and be ruled unconstitutional. It would be like entering into an illegal contract with another person: void and unenforceable.
The felon stuff, while shaky in rhetoric, does at least have a punitive aspect relating to criminality. That's not a bargain, however. And it, so far at least, passes the various judicial tests.
Meh, that sounds like your opinion rather than any airtight legal case.
The fact is that the felon exception was upheld by the court, so other exceptions could be too.
I'm not saying I think the court would do it, but there doesn't seem to be any reason they couldn't.
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