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re: Arbery made multiple visits, at night, to the house under construction (UPDATED)
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:21 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:21 pm to SammyTiger
People go on construction sites all the time. Unless it's posted No Trespass. there is no reason to stop him other than to ask why he is interested in the property.
I inspect homes ...pre to post construction. I am properties every day, knock or ring the doorbell and no one knows why I am there or what I am doing. It's obvious what I'm doing. I've had guns pulled on me multiple times. Until I explain what I am there for ...then they back down. In my situation if you tell me I can't inspect or photograph the home ...you get a nice letter from your insurance carrier ....Cancelled.
I inspect homes ...pre to post construction. I am properties every day, knock or ring the doorbell and no one knows why I am there or what I am doing. It's obvious what I'm doing. I've had guns pulled on me multiple times. Until I explain what I am there for ...then they back down. In my situation if you tell me I can't inspect or photograph the home ...you get a nice letter from your insurance carrier ....Cancelled.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:22 pm to Tridentds
Exactly. I love how people are all of a sudden ok with theft on TD.com. They had their mind made up before all the facts of the case came out.
Now do I think the guy should have been killed? No. But, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Most people get killed while doing a crime. Buying drugs, stealing, driving drunk, etc.
Now do I think the guy should have been killed? No. But, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Most people get killed while doing a crime. Buying drugs, stealing, driving drunk, etc.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:24 pm to bluedragon
So, you are saying their insurance would have been cancelled if this guy couldn't come in?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:25 pm to CFFreak
quote:kinda killed himself. Wonder what he could possibly have done to stay alive at that point? Maybe don't rush the guy with a shotgun? If you are an innocent hammer jogger you can then sue the shite out of them and not be dead
Still, the two idiots who killed him will be going to prison. Not smart.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:29 pm to narddogg81
You still think he had a hammer? That’s cute.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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You still think he had a hammer? That’s cute.
Do you still think he was a jogger?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:31 pm to lsu13lsu
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Do you still think he was a jogger?
It’s funny how dug in people are.
Less than 24 hours the facts have massively changed, but they won’t even be patient and see what else comes out, it’s got to be what they believe, because justice!!!!!!
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:34 pm to Tridentds
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Who cares about 2x4s? No one.
However when ceiling fans, lights, and appliances show up and are in the house for a few days in boxes before the electrician and others can install then things can get real... very fast. How do I know?
When we built our house we had about 10 ceiling fans in boxes, light fixtures in boxes, an airless Graco sprayer, and a few other things stolen one night. All totaled about $2300.
People go in these homes "innocently" just to case them out in the daytime only to return at night to haul everything away. HPD in Houston has an entire task force that only deals with construction theft because this issue is so bad. NO ONE goes to a house under construction more than once by mistake or innocently.
Had the builder/homeowner had a problem with prior thefts?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:35 pm to Turbeauxdog
I bet this guy doesn't correct every person on earth about him being a jogger.
"that's cute, you still think he was a jogger"
It won't happen.
"that's cute, you still think he was a jogger"
It won't happen.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:35 pm to lsu13lsu
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Do you still think he was a jogger
I said from the jump I didn’t know what he was doing.
I do know that mcmichael saw him the night before jogging down his street so it’s reasonable that he runs that route with some frequency.
If you pay attention you know the “just a jogger” narrative won’t really matter at trial. Just fodder for simps to eat up.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:35 pm to moneyg
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They tried to detain him because they thought he was a thief.
While technically true, the part you're leaving out is that they were extremely willing to believe he was a thief despite having no first-hand knowledge of him committing a crime and based only on a very vague description of "lots of stolen property in the neighborhood."
Which suggests, at least to me, that racial bias may have contributed to that willingness.
I could be wrong. If the description had been, "A white guy in a grey T-shirt was seen attempting to steal something from a house," maybe it would have gone exactly the same way. But I personally doubt it.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:38 pm to doubleb
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People go in these homes "innocently" just to case them out in the daytime only to return at night to haul everything away. HPD in Houston has an entire task force that only deals with construction theft because this issue is so bad. NO ONE goes to a house under construction more than once by mistake or innocently.
Ehhh
I went into some homes (quite recently) multiple times to see how they were coming along. They're across the street and I obviously have an interest and curiosity in how they look.
Maybe I'm in the wrong. But theoretically, I don't think it's ridiculous that a guy who frequently ran in the neighborhood might have stopped in to see how things were coming on multiple occasions.
I'm not convinced the guy is a jogger, perhaps because it would blow my mind to find out someone ran repeatedly in long cargo shorts, but it's possible if he was caught on video multiple times and was never seen taking anything.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:39 pm to wackatimesthree
There is a video of him at a construction site.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:39 pm to Pettifogger
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Maybe I'm in the wrong.
No maybe to it.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:40 pm to lsu13lsu
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There is a video of him at a construction site.
The video on the day of the incident? The one that the mcmichaels hadn’t seen prior to chasing AA
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:43 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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The video on the day of the incident? The one that the mcmichaels hadn’t seen prior to chasing AA
So the description was pretty accurate and seemingly not racist but based on facts.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:44 pm to Parmen
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Literally no one on this board is defending what those two guys did.
You haven't been reading the right threads.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:45 pm to lsu13lsu
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No maybe to it.
If I was a developer I'd be against it for liability. That said, I think most of us have done it and we were witnessed doing it - nobody cared.
I only say that because I don't think there is widespread public adoption of the idea that it's something you shouldn't do and I don't think it's necessarily true that Arbery crossed any bright lines (at least from an average layman perspective) in doing it.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:47 pm to Dale51
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You give up your ability to defend yourself when assaulting someone with a weapon
Huh?
What, so you can't fricking read? What he said should be pretty clear to you if you have more brain cells than a turnip.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:54 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
committing felony aggravated assault.
Facts not in evidence
The Georgia laws regarding citizens arrest and use of deadly force have been posted on this board so many times that there's no point in me posting them again if you're too fricking stupid to read them.
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