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re: Bayer/Monsanto Roundup verdict: $300 million

Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110362 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:26 pm to
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The absurdity of granting a patent on a fricking seed.


This just shows me how extremely stupid you are. This isnt just some seed. Millions of dollars of research and development goes into creating GMO's. If you don't think a company should be able to profit off their hard work then you are an idiot. There is good reason why countries with strong proprietary protection laws breed intervention.


Damn, I triggered the frick out of someone.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:57 pm to
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California jury awards $300 million to terminal man who claims Roundup was the sole cause of his cancer.
F*ch these people.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62957 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:03 pm to
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Also karma for Bayer for their WWII Nazi work, some of which resulted in glycophosphates in the 1st place.

Not unlike the US space program. Good grief.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6023 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:11 pm to
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I have no problems with GMOs. We way overuse chemicals though.


Soil is the biggest pollutant in the world so let go back to more tillage and less chemicals and see how that works out
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6023 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:14 pm to
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USDA pays farmers each year to not sell their crops.


This is so stupid and not true. Where the hell do you hear this?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:20 pm to
Gotta love fake science.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:21 pm to
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This company has poisoned the earth and us at a rate that you will never understand. Cancer rates, ADHD, Alzheimers, Autism, Birth Defects, etc. etc. etc. are directly proportional to the use of Roundup. The product needs to be banned world-wide.


Rotenone is an approved organic pesticide that way more carcinogenic than roundup and also causes parkinson’s but keep on shopping at Whole Foods and believing Monsanto is some big bad boogeyman
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4042 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:36 pm to
I could go down 10 different rabbit holes with some of the takes brought up in this topic. The market typically pays the carry to store grain if sellers have storage, kinda the whole point of futures markets. I’m getting confused, are we pissed at farmers for not planting crops on certain acres to help replenish soil/(and getting money from the govt to do so) or are we pissed because farmers are overapplying fert/herbicide and poisoning the world?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62957 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:37 pm to
Or nicotine. 100% “all natural” pesticide. Now... go have a look at MLD for nicotine vs Roundup and tell me which you’d prefer.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:37 pm
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:10 pm to
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This is so stupid and not true. Where the hell do you hear this?


You know that USDA has conservation policies that pay farmers not to grow or to grow only certain things, which are then not sold or consumed. USDA pays a rental fee for the land.

Also subsidies are granted to farmers based on market prices, which farmers get to choose which day to base the subsidy on, and the subsidy applies whether they sell the crops or not.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4042 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:23 am to
Right, cover cropping has been around for a while. Planting the same crops continuously leads to soil erosion and fertilizer leaching. I’ve never heard of anyone not selling their oats, wheat, barley, vegs they plant as a cover crop? Why would anyone voluntarily grow a cover crop for less than the regular crop without some assistance? Most cover crops are grown at a loss but get a gain in yield the next year.
Are you referring to crop insurance? I’m not following you here. Subsidies establish a price floor set by the govt and payments are based on your historic yield per acre
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:36 am to
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The product needs to be banned world-wide.
so long as you are ok with poor people starving and a $25 loaf of bread. will you go pull weeds in the fields? Cause I sure aint.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6023 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:02 am to
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You know that USDA has conservation policies that pay farmers not to grow or to grow only certain things, which are then not sold or consumed. USDA pays a rental fee for the land


Most crp and wrp acres shouldn’t be in production anyway
Cover crops which are great for the environment are the only thing I know that farmers will grow and not sale
Posted by CrazyJoeDivola
Member since Jan 2013
628 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:08 am to
And you literally have zero proof of any of this.

Which indigenous plants were killed? I’m pretty sure corn and soy aren’t indigenous.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6023 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:12 am to
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Also subsidies are granted to farmers based on market prices, which farmers get to choose which day to base the subsidy on, and the subsidy applies whether they sell the crops or not.


If you are referring to plc and arc. Farmers have to elect which program to enroll in every four years ( every new farm bill) and they get paid on a percentage of historical acres and yield
Beans and Corn haven’t been paid a plc since the program started and most counties have only gotten small arc payments

As far as holding grain until next crop year, seems more common in the Midwest with smaller farmers. Most guys in the south sale their crops before the next harvest. Also most good size farmers don’t have enough storage to store their whole crop so it’s not really worth it to pay storage fees for long on a chance the price might go way up
Posted by CrazyJoeDivola
Member since Jan 2013
628 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:12 am to
There were a lot less of us. And growing
Posted by CrazyJoeDivola
Member since Jan 2013
628 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:14 am to
The absurdity of granting a patent on a pill.

It literally takes 13 years and $250 MUSD to develop that first seed dingbat.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110362 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:17 am to
Does the pill naturally replicate itself?
Posted by CrazyJoeDivola
Member since Jan 2013
628 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:21 am to
The seed wouldn’t were it not for genetic engineering.

A few years ago Monsanto discussed using a terminator gene so that saved seed wouldn’t germinate, and everybody lost their shite. You can’t have it both ways.
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