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Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:47 pm to
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Do you have anything of value to offer other than inquisitions, nitpickery, and cherry picking?
Simple questions.

Who claims that volcanos and cowfarts are responsible for the cyclical temperature fuccuations of the Quaternary ice age? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

Who claimed 15-20 years ago that an ice free Arctic was imminent? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

Who claimed Covid came from bats, or bat soup, or an outdoor market in Wuhan? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

Who claimed cloth masks helped? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

Who claimed SARS-CoV-2 appeared naturally evolved? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

Who claimed the CV19 Vax was 100% effective? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

Who claimed preschoolers should get the CV19Vax under an EUA? Was that the "armchair scientists"?

No answer?

... or is CV19 and its origin unimportant "nitpickery"?
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:48 pm to
Why not Arthur Jeffries?
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:02 pm to
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Simple questions.


Lol. Sorry not gonna play! Pick ONE thing to talk about. Then we can talk about it. And when we're done, we can talk about something else. I can't think 20 different thoughts all at once and I think you might be better off if you didn't do that yourself. Just a suggestion. Not trying to be "uncivil".
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:37 pm to
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Sorry not gonna play
Good choice.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:42 pm to
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I can't think 20 different thoughts all at once
LOL. All you needed do was think of one of the 20 "all at once".

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I think you might be better off if you didn't do that yourself
Oh, I appreciate the .. concern .., but I'm just fine.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:42 pm to
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LOL. All you needed do was think of one of the 20 "all at once".



If you can't bring yourself to think only 1 of the 20 thoughts you should have no expectation I would do it for you.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:16 pm to
First of all, please tell the board on how you get around from place to place, and how you live and eat, etc. and how you have implemented changes in your lifestyle that you and your ilk wish to impose on other US citizens. Second, yes such things as the warming of the Gulf of ME recently have been documented via recent data and as such I am not a "climate denier" but instead someone who doesn't buy in to all of the political extension of things such as increased intensity of hurricanes, fires, high temps, droughts, etc. Third - especially pinning humans as a major cause cannot be proven against the vast historic climate changes that have happened over the course of earth history. Fourth, if this is not again a political scheme, why not instead of the focus being on 'changing our ways' which is an approach that is BS, why are not monies and the focus be towards means to deal with and perhaps exploit say warming temps? For example, creating a hard clam industry in ME or research towards enhanced corn and wheat cultivars in South Dakota?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:43 pm to
I will ask one more time.

How much climate change is caused by man.

How much money do we need to save the earth.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 4:47 am to
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I will ask one more time.

How much climate change is caused by man.

How much money do we need to save the earth.
Uh oh.
You asked two questions at once. He only does one at a time.


As to the first, we both know he hasn't anything but a guess, IOW barely a clue.
The term climate change implies deviation from climate baseline. It's an easy derivation as long as the baseline is known. But as you rhetorically point out, the baseline is not known.

Likewise, while we can calculate CO2 forcing contributions in isolation, environmental interplay is far more complex. It's one reason predictive modeling has been less than actually predictive.

As to how much money ... the answer is "your fair share" of course.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 5:07 am
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:53 am to
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How much climate change is caused by man.



Please choose something that can be measured.

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How much money do we need to save the earth.


$0. The Earth does not care if you live or die.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:59 am to
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It's one reason predictive modeling has been less than actually predictive.


Oh really? That's interesting. I'm guessing this is based on your review of stories in the press, statements by non-scientists including has been Presidential candidates and little girls, and non-profit "research" groups with undisclosed funding sources, and zero peer reviewed papers.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by Peebles
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222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:03 am to
The Warming Denier's Checklist. Please complete before entering an argument.
1) Pick one: a) global warming is natural b) the globe is cooling
2) Pick one: a) too many volcanos b) not enough volcanos
3) Pick one: a) The Earth is 4.5 billion years old b) the Earth is 5000 years old.
4) Select all that apply: a) the Sun b) a thermodynamic law chosen at random c) the greenhouse effect doesn't exist d) the climate changed without man before e) orbital cycles
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:49 am to
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quote:

we both know he hasn't anything but a guess, IOW barely a clue.
I'm guessing
No kidding. That is such a surprise. But at least you're well practiced.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 8:50 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:53 am to
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He's a mechanical engineer

I wouldn't say that he is lacking in scientific knowledge
If he was a good engineer, he’d be an engineer instead of a TV clown.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:55 am to
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How much climate change is caused by man.
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Please choose something that can be measured.

Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
87424 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:59 am to
Amazing isn't it?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:23 am to
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a) global warming is natural
We are at an interstadial maximum
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b) the globe is cooling
We live in the Quaternary period manifested by an ice age. To clarify, for those "experts" who get their "science" from the likes of António Guterres, the fact we're in an ice age means the climate is currently cooler than at any point for over 200,000,000 years predating the Quaternary.

The rest of your post is impish, though I did have to chuckle at your use of the term "greenhouse effect."

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Okay, your turn:

The Warmist Science Checklist. Please complete before entering an argument.
1) Pick one: a) global warming is natural b) the globe is cooling c) the climate is controlled by man.
2) Quaternary CO2 cycles come from: a) too many volcanos b) not enough volcanos c) pelagic effects d) cow farts
3) Quaternary interglacial maximums: a) are caused by increased atmospheric CO2 b) cause increased atmospheric CO2
4) The vast majority of terrestrial CO2 is contained: a) on land b) in the atmosphere c) in the ocean
5) Familiar with Henry's Law: a) Yes b) No

This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 9:26 am
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:07 am to
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No kidding. That is such a surprise. But at least you're well practiced.


Wow look Dr. Armchair got distracted by a word again.

Let's take a look at the Denier Model of Global Warming

1. It's natural.


That's it. Zero predictive ability.



Now ask yourself, is that the baseline upon which you are judging climate models?
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:09 am to
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Amazing isn't it?
I can't comprehend my words for you.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:16 am to
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for those "experts" who get their "science" from the likes of António Guterres



Which ones are those? Do they have names?


You tell me what happens to all that CO2 we're pumping into the ocean. The denier view seems to be that the pH drop is part of a worldwide conspiracy to lie about pH, and all the CO2 is instantly converted to limestone. Please correct any misunderstandings I might have about the Denier Model.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 10:18 am
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