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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
Biden Voters - Would you change your vote?



Yes, unequivocally yes, they would absolutely not vote for Joe, knowing then what they know now.

No, they'll never admit it.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19159 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Not to let Biden supporters off the hook, but this event was an inevitability regardless of who was in office.



No, it wasn't. Someone could have planned better evacuation of civilians in the weeks/months leading up to the withdrawal. 15,000 Americans being stranded over there was not an inevitability
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
2129 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:36 pm to
Nope!
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1852 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Biden Voters - Would you change your vote?


I'd simply not vote had I anticipated this:

quote:

“Communism is a failed system, a universally failed system. And I don’t see socialism as a very useful substitute, but that’s another story,” Biden said in the White House East Room.


As to the things you listed:
Afghanistan - seems half as*ed, but we shouldn't have been there and needed to withdraw
Covid - pretty bad but so was the last President's response
Border - Didn't agree with the last President, don't agree with this one. We can stop the flow a la Trump without being cruel a la Trump.
Inflation - Trump was vastly superior
Energy - Trump embraced oil and gas, Dems are for renewables. There's always going to be a shakeup when major industries are transitioning. No right answer.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:40 pm to
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Donald Trump as POTUS tried to destroy the legitimate Constitutional governing process in this country


I must have missed this.

Which of his policies were unconstitutional? If they were unconstitutional, did the appropriate courts/legislators not execute the ability to check/balance the executive branch? Did he ignore the judicial and legislative branches?

That is a befuddling statement. But I applaud your honesty. You have officially owned up to the fact that poor policy decisions are ok, but only if certain folks enact them.
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:44 pm to
As a TCU Alumnus. I can honestly state that 80 % of my class voted Republican.
He doesn't speak for the majority!!!! :usa:
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:44 pm to
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I'd simply not vote had I anticipated this:



I appreciate your honesty. We can debate on your direct answers but I can see why you answered the way you did.

Definitely should be out of Afghanistan. But the Biden pull out game was weak. No reason to have over 10k civilians there without having a military presence. Something has to give from a planning perspective.

I don't view Trump as cruel with the border. At least no more cruel than Biden. Same shite different day unfortunately.

I think the COVID responses are about the same. The difference being Biden ran on a platform decrying DJTs response and was adamant that he would do better.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:46 pm to
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Nope
Are you answering generally for Biden voters or for yourself specifically?
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1852 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:50 pm to
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I appreciate your honesty. We can debate on your direct answers but I can see why you answered the way you did.


Very respectable response, thank you, sir.

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Definitely should be out of Afghanistan. But the Biden pull out game was weak. No reason to have over 10k civilians there without having a military presence. Something has to give from a planning perspective.


Agreed

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I don't view Trump as cruel with the border. At least no more cruel than Biden. Same shite different day unfortunately.


I mean, how hard is it to check immigration status and then send someone back to their country of origin?

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I think the COVID responses are about the same. The difference being Biden ran on a platform decrying DJTs response and was adamant that he would do better.


You have a very good point. The responses were never serious as airports for international flights were never stopped. Basic things that could have mitigated a "true" pandemic response were not taken. Once the virus was known to not be as deadly as first feared, everything should have changed response-wise and yet, here we are.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:53 pm to
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What is the criteria for victory in Afghanistan/Iraq?


And ask him how to successfully get to that end point.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:53 pm to
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I mean, how hard is it to check immigration status and then send someone back to their country of origin?


You're going to need to take that common sense elsewhere. We are talking government policy.

Posted by Party At LSU
Member since Nov 2005
11068 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Afghanistan - seems half as*ed, but we shouldn't have been there and needed to withdraw
Covid - pretty bad but so was the last President's response
Border - Didn't agree with the last President, don't agree with this one. We can stop the flow a la Trump without being cruel a la Trump.
Inflation - Trump was vastly superior
Energy - Trump embraced oil and gas, Dems are for renewables. There's always going to be a shakeup when major industries are transitioning. No right answer.

What’s it like to be this fricking stupid?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
71593 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:55 pm to
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No, it wasn't. Someone could have planned better evacuation of civilians in the weeks/months leading up to the withdrawal. 15,000 Americans being stranded over there was not an inevitability


Did you even read the detail being debated?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
71593 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

This event was not inevitable. The taliban taking over was inevitable, but not what’s happening right now.


See my prior response to the other poster.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:02 pm to
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No one will answer you but most of them are thinking they are idiots for voting with their feeling rather than their logic.


No, most of them are not that honest with themselves
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:03 pm to
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2020 election is over. Move on. My life has changed little outside of working 4 days/ week ( actually enjoyed it a little) instead of 5 for a few months.



That has nothing to do with the question asked.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64150 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

I mean, how hard is it to check immigration status and then send someone back to their country of origin?



Very difficult, due to liberals fighting immigration laws in court. The process has been slowed due to completely unnecessary red tape that is the law of the land.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:12 pm to
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Very difficult, due to liberals fighting immigration laws in court. The process has been slowed due to completely unnecessary red tape that is the law of the land.


I think the idea is that it shouldn’t be. Current bad policy doesn’t help.
Posted by Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
1558 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:14 pm to
Has GeorgeWest responded yet? Didn't think so.

Waiting for his evidence. Come on big man...don't suck your thumb now! Bring it!
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1332 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:16 pm to
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Suspiciously absent from this thread:

TBoy
mmcgrath
Mickey Goldmill

Still waiting for these guys to champion their dear leader and his job performance thus far...

I think y’all underestimate how many Biden voters are men.
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