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Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:35 am to carlsoda
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Clean up Mexico so business can move in
Mexico has been gifted with some of the best cache of natural resources in the world.Natural Gas,rich farm land, petroleum,iron ore,zinc,gold,silver etc and should have one of the most robust economies in the world but narcotics is still their biggest export.
Until their govt and financial institutions get their shite together and actually embrace capitilism it's not gonna be a place where manufacturing is gonna thrive.
If Mexico was an American city Id compare it to NO
So much wasted potential.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:40 am to Buttoncollector
Ive been saying this for years...that we need mfg to be moved to Mexico. However, cartels have to be dealt with first. They control govt and would become even more powerful if they were able to rise along with a normal first world economy. North Mexico location could shorten shipping to market distances, provide an area to run training for American soldiers guarding our border for immigration control. However, the experts tout a lack of intellectual talent in Mexico. So, import some immigrants from some place else to Mex to fill those high tech jobs. "Invest in our neighbor" is a good policy.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:52 am to RD Dawg
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If Mexico was an American city Id compare it to NO
As bad as NO is, it has a few redeeming characteristics. Memphis might be a better comparison.
Build the wall. American jobs for American workers.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:56 am to Boatshoes
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Memphis might be a better comparison.

Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:06 am to Wtodd
quote:Has anyone in this thread heard of NAFTA? Or the TPP???
Only if we're smart....this should have happened 3 decades ago or longer.
You know, those things Trump wanted to destroy?
We already have had net zero illegal immigration from Mexicans for years.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:10 am to BuckyCheese
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Cars and trucks are not very basic goods.
They assemble those things there under the strict guidence from GM and Ford.
I wouldn't trust them to actually manufacture anything there other than textiles.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:11 am to Buttoncollector
Pax (North and Central) Americana
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:14 am to Boatshoes
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You globalists never learn do you. You spend 30 years enriching a communist regime that turns around and repeatedly poisons us and when you finally get called on it you want do the same for a failed narco terrorist state.
Well heck with that. Bring it home to America. Free trade for first world nations only. Walls for Mexico.
I think pretty much everyone can agree that we would prefer this outcome, but it’s just not realistic my man.
You cannot find good labor in this country. Period. And I’m not talking good as in exceptional, I’m talking good as barely treading water competent.
“Oh but if we put them back to work and wages go up they will work”
fricking bullshite. If you believe this you are a fricking fool and have never worked anywhere close to a manufacturing field.
It is not a money issue it is a multi generational culture issue. I advocate very hard for a national policy of de-emphasizing the need for a college degree and pushing people towards trade school and skilled labor. The people that need to be in college will fall in place there naturally, but people have got to stop lying to themselves about their special snowflake kid that they know in their heart damn well doesn’t belong in school but send them anyway because they are American and it would be a “failure” not to. This attitude has led to our only options being the absolute dregs of society.
There, I pitched a long term idea to fix, or help, the problem. What is your solution?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:15 am to mmcgrath
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net zero illegal immigration from Mexicans for years
What does this even mean? The same number are leaving that are coming, so it's all good?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:16 am to OBReb6
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There, I pitched a long term idea to fix, or help, the problem. What is your solution?
You really didn't though. You stated a banal platitude.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:19 am to Buttoncollector
I'd really prefer to move it to Canada. No cartels or imbedded Govt corruption.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:23 am to beachdude
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What about that Wall thingie?
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beachdude
Well beachdude, there's a thingie called a gate. Try to get your head around this concept. A gate is a thingie that allows the owner of a property determine what is allowed to pass through that gate. See, just because we allow thingies like products, and trade through our gate, doesn't mean we have to allow millions of unskilled, and uneducated societal leeches through that gate.
That is, as long as we have thingies like walls, and gates.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:31 am to ItTakesAThief
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Put those jobs in Mexico and Central America.
Some bad hombres.
But some good people.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:37 am to Buttoncollector
Could this potential manufacturing boom in Mexico cause some of the “undocumented” here in the states to willingly go back?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:40 am to Mo Jeaux
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You really didn't though. You stated a banal platitude.
I said we need de-emphasize the traditional university education being the end all be all because as a nation we are a bunch of entitled pricks, and in turn emphasize trade schools and skilled apprenticeships.
But you’re right that is not exactly specific enough. Ok. If we wanted to do something that works we would run our education system like the Germans. But that limits individual freedoms. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Basically there is no solution with the nation in the current state it is in (aka wealth). If manufacturing jobs come back en masse (and I’m talking gritty, assembly line shite), it likely means our country has catastrophically gone to shite.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:43 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:41 am to OBReb6
Southern non union states should cut in line
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:55 am to Buttoncollector
This will not work unless the USA and Mexico can shut down the drug cartels. If they are left in place, they will control everything and corrupt the heck out of it.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:03 am to Buttoncollector
Texas was already growing like weeds. I can’t imagine what the Texas economy would look like if even a fraction of our trade with China shifts to Mexico.
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