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re: But fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela!!!!!
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:06 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:06 am to Bunk Moreland
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You really think blowing up coke boats in the last two months (that were going to Trinidad and Central America) affected fentanyl deaths this quickly?
Closing the border did that.
Blowing up the boats is about sending a message. A message you seem to not want to send. Missing your drugs are you?
BTW, Trinadad and CA are stopping points on the way here, but you knew that already.
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:07 am to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
You argued (to simplify) that they are a de facto member of NATO, even though not a de jure member.
No, I said we should remove ourself from NATO because our involvement with them would pull us into conflicts with Switzerland, similar to our involvement in Ukraine.
It isn't even a logical stretch. We have clear evidence of this happening in other conflicts because "Russia bad." It's a simple statement everyone should realize is accurate without needing to think about it for very long at all.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:07 am to UtahCajun
quote:
Blowing up the boats is about sending a message.
its not working. Even on the American people.
No one believes Trump except his loyalists.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:10 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
Northshorebamaman put on a master class a few weeks ago about all of this. You really think blowing up coke boats in the last two months (that were going to Trinidad and Central America) affected fentanyl deaths this quickly?
"I've done all I can do. Just give me the power. I've asked from the very day I got into office. Give me the Border Patrol. Give me the people, the judges. Give me the people who can stop this and make it work right. If you're serious about the border crisis, pass a bipartisan bill and I will sign it. It'll also give me as president, the emergency authority to shut down the border until it could get back under control. If that bill were the law today, I'd shut down the border right now and fix it quickly".
~Dementia Joe Biden
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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its not working. Even on the American people.
Message isn't for American people.
Give it time.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:11 am to stout
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To be fair, the drop started around 2024 before we were blowing boats up but restricting the supply will accelerate it
Looks like it started dropping in 2023 but the data only goes into 2024. Doesn’t support the point you’re trying to make with this thread.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:12 am to UtahCajun
quote:
Message isn't for American people.
Thats how you lose the public trust.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:But where on the curve?
classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
BTW, that graph is just a funny meme. The real DK effect looks more like the following:
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 10:20 am
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:13 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Wherever confidence and ignorance meet, thats where you'll find him
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:18 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
Interesting. Please explain to us what the line chart says and why the OP is wrong in his analysis. It would be nice to get back to the actual subject of the thread and away from Roger making a fool of himself.
First, it looks like there's a major increase around 2020 which we should all assume is due to the pandemic. Then, around late 2023 things start to drop and are continuing on that trend. This chart has nothing to do with Trump blowing up drug boats. That data probably isn't even available yet.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:21 am to Bunk Moreland
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something put in those drugs at the street level. That's
The dip is because of this.
The cartels green lit all street dealers stepping on their drugs with fentanyl.
It’s really simple. They don’t make veiled threats. If they catch a dealer mixing in fentanyl they will just kill your whole family.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:26 am to SDVTiger
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They want their overdoses!
Yes, and the transplant industry is also going to suffer! Don't you care?!?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:34 am to Mikes My Tiger
So you posit this is just a revert to the mean? Decrease in demand unrelated to supply?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
its not working. Even on the American people.
No one believes Trump except his loyalists.
Another leftwing talking point
Thats 6 alrwady today
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:41 am to stout
Sadam had weapons of mass destruction too.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats how you lose the public trust
Oh, a poll. Awesome.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:50 am to UtahCajun
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Oh, a poll. Awesome.
Luddites, Oh...
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Wherever confidence and ignorance meet, thats where you'll find him
This statement doesn't say near what you think it says.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:51 am to ninthward
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Do you think they stop in Trinidad? Big drug markets in Trinidad right? Do you think Americans stopped taking drugs?
fricking idiot
The majority of drugs come in from the Mexican border, and fent is mostly made by the Mexican cartels.
So the fact the drop off begins before the boats were getting blown up shows that our efforts on securing the border have been the biggest deal.
Also, the stuff with Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 10:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Luddites, Oh...
Also doesn't mean what you think it means, if you insist upon using it as you did.
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