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re: Can we start a Thomas Massie Appreciation Thread?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're in the minority here in the MAGA wing.
Which posters think Orange isnt going to spend?
No one should care about spending as long as its spent on this Country. Which hopefully doge can do. I doubt it
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:07 am to NC_Tigah
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then Massie is as much a liar as John McCain w
This only works if you dishonestly leave off the rest of the sentnece
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If Massey is trying to thwart a Trump administration that is basically Democrat, then that should be seen as a good thing.
Remove names/parties/group identification.
Do we want deficit expanding policies or deficit contracting policies?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:08 am to NC_Tigah
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Trump
is
not
yet
even
POTUS
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promises
Do promises only exist when a person becomes President?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:08 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:No sir. Sorry.
You're jumping the shark.
I am referring to actions. You're referring to words.
Massie's actions could not be more anti-MAGA if he were Hakeem Jeffries. But by all means, keep addressing his political words instead.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:09 am to SDVTiger
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Which posters think Orange isnt going to spend?
Many. Did you miss all the DOGE threads? Balancing the budget/deficit threads? Spending $1T every 100 days threads?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:09 am to NC_Tigah
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Massie's actions could not be more anti-MAGA
Only if the pro-MAGA side is big spending and deficits/debt expansion
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Many
Then list them
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:13 am to SDVTiger
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Then list them
How many threads would satisfy your request?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Promises no. Nor are political promises worth the air used to issue them. Actions are different.
Do promises only exist when a person becomes President?
So I'll ask you a fourth or fifth time, how does Massie empowering Chuck Schumer with a lever to increase spending, thwart DOGE, stall border actions, etc., have ANYTHING to do with CUTTING spending?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:14 am to Paddyshack
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They don’t know why.
Because it will be a cluster frick if he is not selected today and huge loss for Trump and his mandate.
Narrow majority, If not Johnson then who?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:15 am to NC_Tigah
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So I'll ask you a fourth or fifth time,
I've already addressed your framed question in this thread.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It is neither a framed question, nor have you answered it. But since you feel trapped by what you view as a "framed question" as to how Massie empowering Chuck Schumer could result in budget cuts, let's put the question more simply.
I've already addressed your framed question in this thread.
How does delaying raising the Debt Limit in this instance cause budget cuts?
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:28 am to NC_Tigah
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It is neither a framed question
It begins with this:
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how does Massie empowering Chuck Schumer
That's what you call framing. It's an assumption, as well.
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with a lever to increase spending
More framing and assumptions.
Also, as stated earlier, Schumer is a Senator. Massie is in the House. The SOH is in the House.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Those FY26 budget discussions do not arise until the summer. The budget is set IAW fiscal years Oct-to-Oct. POTUS simply makes suggestions. Massie's Congress passes WTF it passes. POTUS either signs it or vetoes it.
Do we want deficit expanding policies or deficit contracting policies?
The pending Debt Limit negotiations are separate and distinct from that budgeting. The only influence they will have is via favors Schumer and Senate Dem can extract via filibustered leverage.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:41 am to Hayekian serf
Eh with a majority this thin, a political island like Massie is prob who you want to send out there for token opposition.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:45 am to Figgy
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For the down voters… why?
Like & appreciate his commitment, but there are times when giving Dems unearned victories after Trump has won a decisive return to the White House shouldn't be applauded.
With no viable candidate to replace MJ, this is a pointless and reckless hill to die on.
That's why.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Except we put the question more simply to allay your trepidations of being trapped.
That's what you call framing. It's an assumption, as well.
How does delaying raising the Debt Limit in this instance cause budget cuts?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:46 am to NC_Tigah
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How does delaying raising the Debt Limit in this instance cause budget cuts?
It should have been a chip used to force spending cuts, but MAGA melted down over it (presumably because MAGA wants to spend)
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Perhaps that is the same ignorant predisposition Massie et al approached the issue. Congress is bicameral. Even if Massie is elected SOTH, even if he negotiates the most MASSIVE cuts in the planet's history in the House, 40 Dems in the Senate can shut that down faster than Hunter Biden can snort a line. Massie empowered Schumer to do just that. ¿Comprende?
Also, as stated earlier, Schumer is a Senator. Massie is in the House.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I did not ask what it should have been.
It should have been a chip used to force spending cuts
I asked how, in this instance, does delaying raising the Debt Limit cause budget cuts?
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