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Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:59 am to
Tangential discussion, I’d happily engage in, but for now, the point stands that there are two great commandments, and the SECOND one is to love your neighbor, AS YOURSELF.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20752 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:03 am to
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True Christians were watching Kid Rock perform last night.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64195 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:03 am to
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No, that isn't necessary.. Fine if you want to do it, but not necessary


Who said this?

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You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.


We might not all see the outward signs of your Christianity, but if you claim to have repented, and you change nothing you do, then it would make sense to doubt your conversion. Repentance involves change.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:04 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20547 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:05 am to
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The only thing more powerful than hate is love


What is love? What is hate? Why is love good? Why is hate bad? "Love rejoices with the truth" (1 Cor. 13:6).

When love is uncoupled from truth it ceases to be love.

I suspect the sentiment given in the OP is just a wolf's attempt to put on some wool before it leaves the house.
Posted by CatahoulaCur
NWLA
Member since Nov 2016
366 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:06 am to
It’s impossible to separate these two things.

Mark 12:31, Mark does a good job of connecting these two by saying it in plainly, these are NOT two separate commandments but rather one that is connected.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6564 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:08 am to
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Or are we disappointed that love has been “hijacked” by progressives?


Love?

They HATE US.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11752 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:11 am to
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When we see this, do we celebrate the greatest message of Jesus is being broadcast to the world or are we angry?



The greatest message of Jesus is and always will be:
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1623 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:15 am to
Love didn’t end WW2. Atom bombs did.
Posted by CatahoulaCur
NWLA
Member since Nov 2016
366 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:15 am to
There is truth along with distortion here as a follower of Jesus…

Christian love is never opposed to truth, but Scripture never defines love as contingent on our ability to speak or receive truth correctly. In Christ, love is what creates the space where truth can actually be heard.

Otherwise you are a clanging symbol.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20034 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:16 am to
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I’m curious what the feedback will be here with genuine Christians that consider themselves Conservative politically.


If we loved the way Christ thought us we wouldn't be so angry, so hate filled toward every and anything.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:20 am to
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CatahoulaCur


What is your point to this thread? Who is acting in a way that you disagree with or that you think needs to change? If you dont state your point, you force us to have to guess(which I suspect is your strategy). I am asking you now, what is your point?
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1938 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:20 am to
The left is hijacking the message of Christ. The left refuses to address sin, let alone repentance of sin.

Nothing the left does is grounded in any truth.
Posted by CatahoulaCur
NWLA
Member since Nov 2016
366 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:20 am to
You’re right, but in the same regard I’d say confidently that the right hates the left…

Where does that leave Chrsitians?

Are we able to stand in either side and confidently represent Christ while also moving others towards Christ.

My takeaway here, as I feared, is I can’t say “I love all” without being painted as a liberal, progressive, or distorting the Bible because love is now a political message that is associated with one side.

It’s a really hard one for me to swallow.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127373 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:23 am to
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It’s a really hard one for me to swallow.

It’s not. You’re struggling with your faith because of something personal that you’re externalizing to “mean conservatives.” Own it and quit pretending it’s someone else’s fault.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64195 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:23 am to
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You’re right, but in the same regard I’d say confidently that the right hates the left…


Depends on what you mean. I hate mutilation of children, murder of unborn babies, the perversion of marriage, and the destruction of the nuclear family. I would say God hates these things too.

The Left would claim that means I hate them, personally, but that's not the case. I simply want them to see the truth of their actions and the truth of what they support. I welcome, with open arms, any who are willing to reject these sins, turn to Jesus, and stop perverting God's will.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:24 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:24 am to
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I’m curious what the feedback will be here with genuine Christians that consider themselves Conservative politically.


If we loved the way Christ thought us we wouldn't be so angry, so hate filled toward every and anything.


Thats not necessarily true. Christ displayed righteous anger at times. He didnt mince words when he called out the religious leaders of the time and he didnt mince actions when he overturned tables in the temple.

When I see people claiming to be Christian leading people to hell, I will get angry.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156748 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:25 am to
Why are you tying religion and politics so closely together?

Posted by theballguy
Un-PC for either side
Member since Oct 2011
35406 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:26 am to
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I think religion is great for most but the western evangelical Christian message of open the door for me so I can save you from what I’ll do you if you don’t, is honestly bizarre. I know I’m not the most virtuous person in the world but if I’m more forgiving than this kind of Jesus you say you believe in, then I don’t want any part of it. No wonder these loons are taking your message from you.


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Can you rephrase this? I’m genuinely curious, but trying to figure out what your saying.



Religion is a good thing mostly in that it tries to be spirituality. For many, it keeps them going through the day or in hard times. I think that's great. Religious rules though are not spirituality. They're just rules of moral conduct. A lot of them I agree with, a lot of them I do not. A lot of Christians confuse this with spirituality. If anything, it's anti-spiritual.

Anyways, if your Jesus is saying open your heart to me and let me in so that I (or God the father if you're not trinitarian) won't have to frick you up for eternity then I think this is very strange and incoherent. To me, it makes no sense.

If I am better at forgiving others (like if it was in my power, I'd never send someone to a firey furnace to be with evil forever) than the Jesus your religion says (believe in me else I or my dad will send you to hell forever) is true, I don't want any part of it. I'll remain a social and mystical Catholic for the rest of my life.

So if this is love to you then I would say don't be surprised when these idiots out there (who are just trying to push another religion on to us) hijack your message.

Always, if any of this isn't clear, just ask. I am always happy to discuss this subject.
Posted by CatahoulaCur
NWLA
Member since Nov 2016
366 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:27 am to
There’s no gotcha moment, genuinely wanted to see the sentiment. You’ve had some good points and again I appreciate your thoughts.

I’m not arguing for a particular point of view, but does feel the left has won with hijacking “love” in any sense.

As a case study, in a couple of weeks, make a post stating that you love both democrats and republicans equally and without question. Not because they repent and follow Christ, but because they are a human being that has infinite worth in the eyes of Jesus. Regardless of what they believe, how they act, or how they treat you, you love them and should be treated equally…. Which as Christian’s, should be our heart posture- right?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21567 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:28 am to
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It’s impossible to separate these two things.


I think you’re making my point for me. I agree they go together. Who is separating them but the very people who like to say, “love is love”, and other such niceties.
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