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re: Derek Chauvin's trial is rigged.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:08 am to KiwiHead
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:08 am to KiwiHead
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You do realize that George Floyd was cuffed on the ground and essentially pinned by the car tire? At that point, drugs or no drugs , he as a threat was neutralized. Chauvin did not need to have his knee on the guy's neck. There were 4 cops around him he wasn't going anywhere . The cops actions were gratuitous.
Even if it was gratuitous to us, apparently that's what they're trained to do when someone is resisting arrest.
Further, the cops at the time could have had no idea how much drugs were in his system.
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:27 am to BiteMe2020
So???? The guy was down on the ground in a prone position and cuffed. At that point he was neutralized. Try getting up from that position without free usr of your arms. It would take you quite an effort and you are extremely vulnerable. Cops know this. Don't hand me the drugs angle it is this board's fallback. Actually with him at an intoxicated level, the cops advantage becomes insurrmountable even without the knee to the neck.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:31 am to Tigers0891
Good as long as he gets off I don’t care
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:36 am to KiwiHead
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So???? The guy was down on the ground in a prone position and cuffed. At that point he was neutralized. Try getting up from that position without free usr of your arms. It would take you quite an effort and you are extremely vulnerable. Cops know this. Don't hand me the drugs angle it is this board's fallback. Actually with him at an intoxicated level, the cops advantage becomes insurrmountable even without the knee to the neck.
The cops had no idea what was in his system, which apparently actually caused the death. Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe before the knee went on his neck. Sounds like the mass of drugs he caused is well more than reasonable enough doubt about the cause of death.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:38 am to Tigers0891
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It isn't rigged against him. It is rigged in his favor for him to be acquitted.
Interesting theory. And, maybe in the legal sense, it might have some merit.
But, I don't think it will ever happen. Chauvin is CLEARLY innocent and 99.99% of the time this would have never even made it to trial. However, in this case, he will be convicted.
It will have NOTHING to do with the evidence. The jury will not even listen to the evidence.
This is basically the opposite of the O.J. jury. There wasn't a chance in hell the O.J. was ever going to be convicted. I made some good money on that trial once I heard that the trial was moved to inner city L.A. (instead of Brentwood) and the jury composition. What I knew was that there wasn't a SNOWBALL CHANCE IN HELL that those jury members were going to return to their neighborhoods after finding O.J. guilty. I mean, he was GUILTY AS F*CKING SIN. The whole world knew it. However, remember all the cheering and celebrating across the country coming from pretty much every corner of the black community when he got off. It wasn't about guilt or innocence -- it was strictly about blacks being ecstatic about a black man literally getting away with murdering a white woman. The jurors went back to their neighborhoods as heroes.
Here, it's the same exact thing in reverse. There is NO F*CKING WAY these jurors are going to go back into their community if they follow the EVIDENCE and acquit. They will be crucified. The Race Pimps and their sycophant Dims have already let it be known that they have their names and addresses. If for no other reason (like pure f*cking FEAR), they'll convict so that they'll return to their neighborhoods as heroes -- like the O.J. jurors. They will not even be paying attention to the evidence.
This is WHY I cannot f*cking believe that this trial hasn't been moved far away from Minneapolis. There shouldn't have even been a hearing on that -- it just should have been moved sua sponte. IT JUST PLAIN COMMON F*CKING SENSE.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 6:58 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:41 am to KiwiHead
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At that point he was neutralized. Try getting up from that position without free usr of your arms.
Have you ever dealt with someone high on meth/fentynal, PCP, etc.?
This guy was like 6'6" and weighed like 250 lbs. He was a monster high on drugs. They had him in the cop car but had to let him out because he was trying to bust out.
So don't come here talking about how he was "neutralized" as if that was the end of the story.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 6:49 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:44 am to bbeck
Have you noticed the "Movie Trailer" type commercials airing on most news channels, the history channel and several others?
I saw around 3 or 4 of them in a two hour span while channel surfing last night.
"Someone" is working realllllyy hard to shape opinions and possibly set a stage.
I saw around 3 or 4 of them in a two hour span while channel surfing last night.
"Someone" is working realllllyy hard to shape opinions and possibly set a stage.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:54 am to KiwiHead
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So???? The guy was down on the ground in a prone position and cuffed. At that point he was neutralized. Try getting up from that position without free usr of your arms. It would take you quite an effort and you are extremely vulnerable. Cops know this. Don't hand me the drugs angle it is this board's fallback. Actually with him at an intoxicated level, the cops advantage becomes insurrmountable even without the knee to the neck
That irrelevant to whether the acts led to Floyd’s death.
You sound like you want to convict him if murder because the cop was unnecessarily aggressive even though it was the drugs that killed him.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:17 am to Azkiger
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Is that murder? Or racially motivated? No. Is it manslaughter? Depends on the autopsy. If he died of a drug overdose then no, it's not manslaughter. If he died from the knee to the neck then it should be.
This is a good take and shows how challenging this case should be for the prosecution if a fair trial. I don’t see anything wrong with the way he was restrained particularly when he is communicating and further after he had resisted. There is a moment when he stops communicating where Chauvin’s actions become very strange to me. He almost seems like he is in a trance. But he isn’t charged with indifference. What led to Floyd becoming unresponsive? Based upon the first ME report, that it wasn’t asphyxiation would make you think reasonable doubt exists.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:22 am to moneyg
Stupidity has a price. When you are an officer of the court, holding a badge and a gun, stupidity has a legal price. May not be murder, but he’s gonna be held complicit in the death of a drug addled fat man.
No amount of PCP could allow a man to get off the ground while lying on his stomach cuffed behind his back with four cops in attendance. Stupidity asked for what’s coming.
No amount of PCP could allow a man to get off the ground while lying on his stomach cuffed behind his back with four cops in attendance. Stupidity asked for what’s coming.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:34 am to OccamsStubble
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No amount of PCP could allow a man to get off the ground while lying on his stomach cuffed behind his back with four cops in attendance. Stupidity asked for what’s coming.
You don't have a f*cking CLUE.
Ask any cop in any big city about what a monster on PCP is capable of. This f*cking SCUMBAG was 6'6" and about 250 lbs. High on PCP he is a SUPER PREDATOR. For quick bursts, these PCP FREAKS are capable of super human feats. And, that has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE.
ETA: Ask a cop what's their biggest fear on the job. The FIRST thing they will say is answering a domestic dispute call. Those are the worst because people go out of their f*cking minds when it comes to matters of the heart. BUT, the second is coming across a f*cking animal like George Floyd high on something like PCP. I had a cop tell me that he saw another cop empty his 9mm clip on a guy high on PCP and the guy still didn't go down.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:35 am to Tigers0891
quote:You really didn't expect anything else now, did you??
Derek Chauvin's trial is rigged.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:38 am to nicholastiger
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How can he possibly get a fair trial
Especially when they settled already
Criminal vs civil
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:43 am to Tigers0891
quote:You mean the evidence doesnt support conviction
It is rigged in his favor for him to be acquitted.
rigged
silly Dems and their ignorance
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:49 am to OccamsStubble
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Stupidity asked for what’s coming.
4 times the fatal level of Fentanyl killed George Floyd. Not Chauvin.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:53 am to Tigers0891
It’s fun to take “they are out to get us” stances for all possible outcomes
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:58 am to Tigers0891
If Chauvin is found not guilty he will be hounded for the rest of his live, he will have to go into hiding. If he found guilty he won't make a year in prison.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:00 am to SantaFe
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If Chauvin is found not guilty he will be hounded for the rest of his live, he will have to go into hiding. If he found guilty he won't make a year in prison.
HE should sue the city of Minneapolis and several others (including the media) for the lies that have been told to prevent him from getting a fair trial.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:04 am to OccamsStubble
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Stupidity has a price. When you are an officer of the court, holding a badge and a gun, stupidity has a legal price. May not be murder, but he’s gonna be held complicit in the death of a drug addled fat man.
No amount of PCP could allow a man to get off the ground while lying on his stomach cuffed behind his back with four cops in attendance. Stupidity asked for what’s coming.
COVID plus the lethal level of drugs, lol. The cop had no way of knowing either of these things, and it's lunacy for anyone to expect him to have known.
As for PCP, it can make people do some crazy shite.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:17 am to Tigers0891
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It is rigged in his favor for him to be acquitted.
Not murdering the drug-fueled felon helps his case tremendously.
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