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Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:07 pm to Canon951
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It's amazing to me that you can look at all of those verses and there are others I'm sure, and basically just say that it means something else. You don't know what you are talking about.
I saw you mentioned going through the narrow gate is faith alone to another poster. I think you have it arse backwards. The wide road with the giant gate is “faith alone”. The narrow gate is a challenge to truly following God’s laws and Jesus’ teachings and not just following the easy bandwagon of “I believe, and that’s all I have to do”.
So sure, you have to believe in Jesus to attain salvation. But you must also be more righteous than the Pharisees and keep all of God’s commandments until heaven and earth pass away and are recreated perfect. Did heaven and earth pass away yet? No????? Well anyone who tells others to not keep God’s law will be least in His kingdom.
You “faith alone” guys like to take the easy path - the Paul path - just simply believe in Jesus and that’s it.
Study this verse from Matthew 7…
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:14 pm to Canon951
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some obscure verse
This is funny. You believe in the God-breathed scripture, but when someone provides an “obscure” scripture that confuses you, you dismiss it.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:15 pm to CorchJay
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CorchJay
You’re not even ashamed of your ignorance. If fact, you flaunt it.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:16 pm to SkiUtah420
Christians are God's chosen people. Not the synagogue of Satan that had Christ crucified and harbor pedophiles to this day
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:19 pm to Canon951
Heads up- “Harald” is really a banned troll named Squirrelmeister. He’s an atheist. He’s a sad little man who dedicates his free time to discrediting the God he claims not to believe in. A quick comparison of his two post histories will confirm my statement. Don’t waste your time. He’s nothing more than a troll.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:25 pm to Harald Ekernson
Let’s take a live look at Harald aka Squirrelmeister putting in work:
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:27 pm to RyanMartin835
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Christians are God's chosen people. Not the synagogue of Satan that had Christ crucified and harbor pedophiles to this day
I’m not disagreeing with your statement. But, you really should read Romans. All of it.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:32 pm to Prodigal Son
People actually believe Israel in the Bible refers to the secular country manufactured after WW2 by Eastern European fake Jews?
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:34 pm to jeffsdad
It all hinges on Galatians.
Is Christ your master or is the law your master?
If you live in the spirit then your fruits will be of the spirit.
Is Christ your master or is the law your master?
If you live in the spirit then your fruits will be of the spirit.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:43 pm to Prodigal Son
You are quite the conspiracy theorist 
I think Paul is suspect. I prioritize the words of the creator of the universe rather than the one who persecuted Christians.
Yes let’s hear from Jesus.
“And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.””
The Torah, which Jesus did not come to abolish, contains much more than 10 commandments.
Maybe God’s will is a little more complex than one sentence. This is evident by Jesus explaining that not everyone who believes in the Son will have eternal life in Matthew 7:21. There is no contradiction here between these two passages. One must have faith in Jesus, and one must also do God’s will including keeping every dot and tittle of the commandments.
I already showed you a couple. There are more.
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Paul’s word not good enough for you? (I know how you feel about Paul)
I think Paul is suspect. I prioritize the words of the creator of the universe rather than the one who persecuted Christians.
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How about straight from the mouth of Jesus? Matthew 10:32 “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven.
Yes let’s hear from Jesus.
“And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.””
The Torah, which Jesus did not come to abolish, contains much more than 10 commandments.
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John 6:40 ESV For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
Maybe God’s will is a little more complex than one sentence. This is evident by Jesus explaining that not everyone who believes in the Son will have eternal life in Matthew 7:21. There is no contradiction here between these two passages. One must have faith in Jesus, and one must also do God’s will including keeping every dot and tittle of the commandments.
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I challenge you to show me one verse that infers that one’s salvation is performance based.
I already showed you a couple. There are more.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:48 pm to Harald Ekernson
So your textiles are pure? Your food is kosher? You uphold the festivals?
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:55 pm to Harald Ekernson
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I think Paul is suspect. I prioritize the words of the creator of the universe rather than the one who persecuted Christians.
Absolutely! Paul wasn't one of the twelve disciples who broke bread with Jesus. He was added after Jesus came and twisted Jesus' teachings.
So many books in the Bible are written by Paul, and people quote them as inspired by God, yet no authority was granted by Jesus to Paul to interpret his message.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:58 pm to Mo Jeaux
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You’re not even ashamed of your ignorance. If fact, you flaunt it.
What’s my ignorance on the subject? I asked a simple question how many Catholics have a statue/picture/ornament in their church, in their house, or wear somewhere on their body the Mother and Child with the Sun type disks behind their heads? Don’t act like that isn’t iconography honored in Catholic Church.
Well my ignorance on the subject points me to that figure is of Semiramis and Tammuz. Mother and child of the first image of the Antichrist in Bible. But I’m sure you wouldn’t know that because you probably don’t need the Bible because Clement or Ignatius read it for you a couple thousand years ago.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:03 pm to CorchJay
quote:Comparing 350 AD (not even 50 years after the Church canonized the Bible because there was no Bible for over 300 years of the beginning of Christendom - longer than the time America has been a country) to 900 AD, 2025 AD and 1800 AD? Yikes. Where's your logic? Explain it. If that ain't some dispensationalist, re-writing of history then I'll kiss your arse.
Why does someone’s “interpretation” from 350 AD or 900 AD mean anything more than an interpretation from 2025 or 1800.
Wow.
quote:Quite literally, statistically, no one does this in the Protestant, evangelical pro-zionist space, because if they did, the Holy Orthodox church, and even the Catholic church too, would have even more adherents.
To look up words in Hebrew Greek and English and see that actual meaning of each word in a Bible verse.
quote:Which of the 100,000+ worldwide alternative theological alternatives interprets it correctly, in your opinion?
The Bible interprets the Bible.
quote:The one that didn't exist for over 3 centuries of Christendom? AGAIN, tell the class which of the hundreds of thousands of reformed diaspora have the correct theology: you should be able to CLEARLY, succinctly and in one short 3 word answer express your answer.
Commanded in the Bible.
quote:Won't argue with the former, however the latter - pagan? Stop it. You're being a silly Israel worshipping paganist yourself. Yuck.
It doesn’t say form a governmental governing body and follow their pagan Roman traditions.
quote:No one in the Catholic church, "submits" to Mary, you uniformed, zionist worshipper.
How many submit
Good lord this forum is chock full of ignorant, heretical blasphemers of The Christ's blessed mother and the true faith.
Dispensationalism is a heresy. Period. End of story. Narrow is the gate, and you'd better watch yourself blasphemying The Man, The Myth, The Legend's mother. I assure you He doesn't take it lightly.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:17 pm to mudshuvl05
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Dispensationalism is a heresy. Period. End of story. Narrow is the gate, and you'd better watch yourself blasphemying The Man, The Myth, The Legend's mother. I assure you He doesn't take it lightly.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:18 pm to CorchJay
quote:And you prove at every turn that you truly are a piece of shite Jason
Oh that’s right you aren’t Christian you are Catholic big difference
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:22 pm to mudshuvl05
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Won't argue with the former, however the latter - pagan? Stop it. You're being a silly Israel worshipping paganist yourself. Yuck.
I haven’t mentioned Israel if I’m not mistaken. My post have all been Dispensationalist vs RCC.
But you or any of the Catholics have yet to answer my question if they have the Mother and Child iconography? The church that Catholics say would stand against the gates of hell brought in all sorts of paganism. Especially from Roman culture and still to this day embraces it.
Another thing we actually know our scriptural arguments we don’t have to go to some website like Catholic Answers to see what someone else said on a topic. We have a personal relationship with Jesus. We don’t need a miracle to happen during mass to bring Jesus into the service by a prayer and a ringing of a bell.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:24 pm to AuburnTigers
You don’t want to get into this argument Chex it’s beyond your depth.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:35 pm to mudshuvl05
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Comparing 350 AD (not even 50 years after the Church canonized the Bible because there was no Bible for over 300 years of the beginning of Christendom
You must be joking
No one sat in churches for 300 years with nothing to guide them. NO ONE. The Catholics need to quit lying to its people
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The Jewish–Christian Gospels were gospels of a Jewish Christian character quoted by Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Eusebius, Epiphanius, Jerome and probably Didymus the Blind. All five call the gospel the "Gospel of the Hebrews"
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In the standard edition of Schneemelcher, he creates three different Jewish–Christian gospels by dividing up references by the church fathers. Schneemelcher called works or gospels:
The Gospel of the Ebionites.
The Gospel of the Hebrews.
The Gospel of the Nazarenes
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The Gospel of the Hebrews presented traditions of Christ's pre-existence, coming into the world, baptism and temptation, with some of his sayings. It was composed in Greek in the first half of the 2nd century and used among Greek-speaking Jewish Christians in Egypt. It is known from fragments preserved chiefly by Clement, Origen and Jerome, and shows a high regard for James, the brother of Jesus and head of the Jewish Christian church in Jerusalem.
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The Gospel of the Nazarenes existed due to references in Jerome and Origen. It seems to have much in common with the canonical Gospel of Matthew, and would have been written in Palestinian Aramaic in the first half of the 2nd century for use by Nazarenes
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Writings attributed to the apostles circulated among the earliest Christian communities. The Pauline epistles were circulating, perhaps in collected forms, by the end of the 1st century AD. Justin Martyr, in the mid 2nd century, mentions "memoirs of the apostles" as being read on "the day called that of the sun" (Sunday) alongside the "writings of the prophets." A defined set of four gospels was asserted by Irenaeus, c. 180, who refers to it directly.
People had lots of writings to go by in founding the religion. In fact, the letters they passed around were from eye witnesses to the Christ. it wasnt until the Romans seized the religion that most these texts disappeared
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