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re: Dispensationalism is a Heresy
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:03 am to SkiUtah420
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:03 am to SkiUtah420
Dispensationalism is wrong and the root of a lot of America's problems on the foreign stage but.....
Doctor, Tayler Marshall is kind of a zealot kook.
I don't think there's room in "his" catholic church for anyone except himself.
Doctor, Tayler Marshall is kind of a zealot kook.
I don't think there's room in "his" catholic church for anyone except himself.
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:04 am to CorchJay
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You are correct we are grafted into God’s chosen people we did not replace them.
Those that reject Christ are removed from the branch. There is one criteria now for being in the branch. Has nothing to do with your ancestry
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:04 am to CorchJay
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You can support the nation and the Jewish people and be indifferent to the political part of Israel.
You seem to be waffling. We have on the table right now a proposal from your side that says that God says in the Bible that Israel is the head of all nations, even head of the USA, because that's what the Book of Genesis says.
You now argue that we can be in line with the Book of Genesis if we say "I support the nation and the Jewish people but I am indifferent to the political part of Israel"? Am I good with God if I say that?
Help me out here. I don't want my ideas about US Mid East foreign policy to send me to Hell.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:05 am to Champagne
Worth noting that the pushback against Israel-first attitudes within American Christianity are coming predominately from Protestant movements.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:07 am to scottydoesntknow
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Interesting. Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruits. Since the creation of the state of Israel weve been in several unfruitfal wars, birth rates have gone down, marriage rates have gone down, violence up, our architecture and beauty of our cities fell off map, we are 37 trillion dollars in debt, degeneracy has run rampant and only increased every year. The % of believers shrank, Islam exploded. Western counties are having their populations replaced by muslims, atheism rose significantly.
You make a strong case here. The USA has supported the State of Israel since Israel's founding in 1948. Since 1948, we don't seem to be very Blessed.
Could that be just a coincidence?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:07 am to Pettifogger
I don't see the pushback. Sorry.
Non Protestant religious leaders tend to stay out of this "theological war" because Non Prot had nothing to do with this theological doctrine that triggered this "war".
And just for the record, I would like to state that, for the most part, I personally agree with US Mid East foreign policy since 1948, which means that I support the US efforts to act in alliance with the State of Israel.
Non Protestant religious leaders tend to stay out of this "theological war" because Non Prot had nothing to do with this theological doctrine that triggered this "war".
And just for the record, I would like to state that, for the most part, I personally agree with US Mid East foreign policy since 1948, which means that I support the US efforts to act in alliance with the State of Israel.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:07 am to Pettifogger
Dispensationalism is just a way of viewing the difference covenants god made with man. You have the age of the fathers - then the age of the law - then the age of grace in which we are under now.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:09 am to Champagne
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I don't see the pushback. Sorry.
Pretty much the entirety of online Reformed Christianity is warring over Israel day in - day out.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:09 am to SlayTime
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It’s mind boggling with the ability to obtain data in 2025 the OG mass formation psychosis still has the pull they do.
We had mass formation psychosis that lead to the holocaust.
We have mass formation psychosis concerning Building 7.
We have and still have mass formation psychosis concerning COVID.
We have a mass formation psychosis concerning Gaza right now.
Mass formation psychosis is a normal human condition. You can see one thing with your own eyes and be told by an authority figure that what you see is the opposite and the majority of people will believe authority and not what they see with their eyes.
It's a fascinating human condition.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:10 am to Champagne
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because it seems clear to me that you are out numbered and most of your fellow Protestants believe that the Holy Bible and Almighty God Commands us that the current State of Israel, founded in 1948, is the exact entity referred to in the Book of Genesis
A lot of them do...but this isnt a zealous belief, except amongst a few. If their pastor got up to the podium this Sunday and set the record straight, the vast majority of the congregation would change their minds.
This has always been a manner of deceit and misinformation. Most protestants today dont think about Israel, their pastors dont cover those scriptures, not out of some grand coverup but rather because they dont deem it relevant to practical Christian life and just roll with the accepted axioms about Israel that they were taught
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:11 am to CorchJay
quote:Heresy.
You are correct we are grafted into God’s chosen people we did not replace them.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:12 am to CorchJay
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The Church is the new Israel
Wrong.
This is why they err. Replacement theology is how they can just throw the baby out with the bathwater. When God says a covenant is Eternal, he means it, it is unconditional.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:13 am to Snipe
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Dispensationalism is wrong and the root of a lot of America's problems on the foreign stage but.....
George Washington predicted this:
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So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:21 am to CorchJay
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especially Catholics
Stop bashing Catholics because Catholicism has nothing to do with this debate. You are trying turn this thread into another round of Catholic bashing.
This foreign policy notion that US Mid East foreign policy should be controlled by the Book of Genesis is a debate totally within Protestant circles.
I oppose the notion.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:21 am to Champagne
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You make a strong case here. The USA has supported the State of Israel since Israel's founding in 1948. Since 1948, we don't seem to be very Blessed. Could that be just a coincidence?
Exactly. If you start at 1948 and choose any metric of Godly blessing, it has all been a negative. One might say wealth and prosperity. God has never treated mindless acquisition of worldly possessions as "blessing" especially when that wealth is a facade built on generational debt and economic issues that will have to be rectified one day.
What does blessing look like: look at Europe. Look at the beautiful cities, art, music and societies that were built. God took pagan savages living in huts that were centuries behind other cultures and made the most advanced society man has ever seen when they accepted Christianity.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:23 am to prattalumni
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God says a covenant is Eternal, he means it, it is unconditional.
The covenant is eternal. The inheritors changed. Its plainly stated in scripture. I posted a wall of them earlier
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:24 am to Champagne
I stated very clearly a Christian’s beliefs on Israel has no affect on salvation. But if you believe the Church replaced Israel then you’re just biblically incorrect. Christians are “grafted” into the tree of the chosen.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:24 am to scottydoesntknow
Yes, your argument is very convincing. Just look at what Western Civilization has become over the last 100 years.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:26 am to scottydoesntknow
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Those that reject Christ are removed from the branch. There is one criteria now for being in the branch. Has nothing to do with your ancestry
Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven - Matthew 10:33
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:28 am to scottydoesntknow
In the end, what does Israel have to do with anyone's soul and spiritual life in the US? As Christians we should be more worried about the battle within ourselves than anything that has to do with a real estate squabble on the Eastern shore of the Mediterranean
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