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re: Do any former libertarians feel ideologically lost?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am to Machine
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am to Machine
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a well regulated free market ;)
You're an SJW who advocates "heavily regulated free markets" (oxymoron) yet claims to hate capitalism and embrace libertarianism.
You're a very confused Bernie bro. Voluntary transactions are the basis of capitalism and free markets, heavy regulation is authoritarian.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am to Zach
quote:speaking of fiction, maybe you and roadGator can got together and pray the facts away
Yes, it's written by those in the 3 categories I mentioned. It's called fiction.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am to Machine
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not really. capitalism is great, but if you want to prevent an oligarchy from forming, you have to sprinkle in aspects of socialism.
Fine. That's Keyensian. The opposite of libertarian.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:41 am to Sentrius
Hoppe's branch of libertarianism is realism:
In order to have a libertarian society, you need to rid the society of individuals who don't practice tenets conducive to libertarian ideals
In order to have a libertarian society, you need to rid the society of individuals who don't practice tenets conducive to libertarian ideals
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:42 am to Machine
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capitalism is great, but if you want to prevent an oligarchy from forming, you have to sprinkle in aspects of socialism
You're an authoritarian, not libertarian
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You're an authoritarian, not libertarian
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:45 am to Machine
You hate capitalism and private property and favor heavily regulated socialism. You're a classic authoritarian
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:47 am to Collegedropout
I certainly don't. I don't abandon ideology for the team sport aspect of politics. Root for ideas, not people.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:wrong
You hate capitalism
quote:i'm definitely skeptical of a human's right to own nature
and private property
quote:i favor regulated capitalism, this isn't difficult
favor heavily regulated socialism
quote:
You're a classic authoritarian
if you keep saying things maybe it will make it true
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:54 am to Collegedropout
The problem with libertarians is the same which plagues any other political thought process. There’s always a dick measuring contest to prove who’s the biggest libertarian, and it leaves little wiggle room for common sense or moderation. It’s always everyone to the far fringes or you’re not really a libertarian. The exact same can be said for any other ideal on the right or left, and it’s why we are so polarized in this country. People often abandon common sense for their respective identity Politics, and if you dare to break from it, or drift to the center on any hot button issue, you come under ridicule for not being far enough to the fringe to be considered a true believer or whatever.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:55 am to ChatRabbit77
I do. I'm starting to question being tolerant of everything.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 10:56 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:59 am to joshnorris14
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Hoppe's branch of libertarianism is realism:
In order to have a libertarian society, you need to rid the society of individuals who don't practice tenets conducive to libertarian ideals
Yep.
There's a reason why libertarians are only white people.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:00 am to Machine
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Libertarian socialists are anti-capitalist, and can thus be distinguished from right-wing libertarians. Whereas capitalist (and right-libertarian) principles concentrate economic power in the hands of those who own the most capital, libertarian socialism aims to distribute power more widely amongst members of society.
You, yesterday
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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libertarian socialism aims to distribute power more widely amongst members of society.
Through what libertarian means is this accomplished?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:04 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Through what libertarian means is this accomplished?
Authoritarian libertarianism
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:04 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Through what libertarian means is this accomplished?
What are the opposite of helicopters?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:06 am to el Gaucho
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Yeah. I was debating politics with the other libertarians at the vape shop and none of us could come to a consensus!
Underrated post.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:10 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Wouldn't setting forth a clear framework whereby such a document could be amended be an acknowledgement by those who crafted it that it wasn't "infallible"?
That is the funny part, the founders clearly knew this thing wasn't perfect, yet so many modern conservatives won't acknowledge the limitations of the agreement.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:11 am to CorporateTiger
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That is the funny part, the founders clearly knew this thing wasn't perfect, yet so many modern conservatives won't acknowledge the limitations of the agreement.
Seems you may be the one who is confused here.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:15 am to CorporateTiger
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That is the funny part, the founders clearly knew this thing wasn't perfect, yet so many modern conservatives won't acknowledge the limitations of the agreement.
Like amendments?
Which imperfect parts should go?
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