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re: Does the Left want Civil War?
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:06 pm to bamadontcare
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:06 pm to bamadontcare
Here's the simple answer .... Yes.
Why? You need only read their playbooks to understand why. The Communist Manifesto and The Cloward Piven Strategy.
Both preach the total destruction, total annihilation, of Capitalism.
Then understand this. This is absolutely falsifiable fact. Marx was a Satanist. He wasn't agnostic or an atheist ..... he was a Satanist.
Once everyone understands that fact then the answer to your question is simple and obvious.
Their means to an end is the destruction of the human race via war and death. They must first tear down this country before they can take down the world.
China is a willing accomplice as are the Muslims.
Why? You need only read their playbooks to understand why. The Communist Manifesto and The Cloward Piven Strategy.
Both preach the total destruction, total annihilation, of Capitalism.
Then understand this. This is absolutely falsifiable fact. Marx was a Satanist. He wasn't agnostic or an atheist ..... he was a Satanist.
Once everyone understands that fact then the answer to your question is simple and obvious.
Their means to an end is the destruction of the human race via war and death. They must first tear down this country before they can take down the world.
China is a willing accomplice as are the Muslims.
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:06 pm to bamadontcare
The casual socialists and moderate democrats don’t.
The Marxist/communist/anarchists absolutely do and are actively driving the bus off the cliff as we speak.
The Marxist/communist/anarchists absolutely do and are actively driving the bus off the cliff as we speak.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:06 pm to Mobile Patriot
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rednecks, and good ole baws
That mostly weigh 300lbs on the hoof.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:07 pm to weagle1999
If they voted for Kamala, then you need to assume that they want you dead because they do and they would celebrate your death. We have 70,000 mentally ill people in this country. We can never come together with them ever again.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:07 pm to scrooster
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total annihilation, of Capitalism.
Neither Left nor Right wants pure capitalism.
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:08 pm to rileytiger
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agree but they don’t know what they are up against
Let’s hope they don’t figure it out until
It’s too late.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:08 pm to NashvilleTider
quote:
you need to assume that they want you dead because they do and they would celebrate your death.
This is a bridge too far
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:10 pm to bamadontcare
No they don’t want an actual war. They started a cultural war in the 1950’s: Kruschev said Communism would take America without firing a shot. Funny thing, that quote has been erased from Wikipedia and other easy sources It’s all about rotting us out from the inside.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:11 pm to bamadontcare
Or sure how accurate this is but here is what someone I know sent me. Talking about how the states have been preparing to separate
———————-
You probably remember Marjorie Taylor Greene ranting about a “national divorce” between red and blue states. What you might not realize is that the divorce is already happening - blue states just aren’t bothering to send the papers.
While political pundits debate whether America is headed for another civil war, something much quieter is unfolding. It’s called soft secession, and it’s not about dramatic declarations or turning state nd federal law enforcement on each other. It’s about Democratic governors holding encrypted video calls to coordinate resistance, attorneys general filing lawsuits within hours of federal orders, and states quietly building parallel systems that make federal authority irrelevant within their borders.
The infrastructure for this resistance didn’t appear overnight. Oregon is stockpiling abortion medication in secret warehouses. California sits on $76 billion in reserves and gets to decide how to deploy it. Illinois is exploring something called “digital sovereignty” - whatever that means, but it sounds expensive for the feds. Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey told MSNBC her state police would “absolutely not” help with Trump’s deportation efforts. She’s not bluffing, and she doesn’t need to be.
The beautiful irony here is that conservative Supreme Court justices handed blue states the legal framework for this resistance on a silver platter. The anti-commandeering doctrine from cases like Printz v. United States means the federal government can’t force states to implement federal programs. Justice Scalia wrote that the feds “cannot require states and localities to carry out its immigration policy.” Those conservative justices probably never imagined blue states would use their own legal precedents to ignore federal authority, but here we are.
Blue states have been practicing soft secession for years without calling it that. Twenty-five states refused to implement REAL ID requirements starting in 2007, delaying enforcement for nearly two decades. During Trump’s first term, Democratic attorneys general filed over 130 multistate lawsuits with an 83 percent success rate. They maintain “brief banks” with pre-drafted lawsuits ready for immediate filing - the modern equivalent of how Northern states coordinated legal resistance against fugitive slave laws.
The economic leverage is extraordinary. Blue states are what economists call “giver states” - they send far more tax revenue to Washington than they receive back in federal investment. Massachusetts sends $4,846 more per capita to the federal government than it receives. New York contributed $142.6 billion more than it received over five years. The total transfer from blue to red states exceeded $1 trillion between 2018 and 2022.
That’s not a typo.
Blue states are subsidizing red states to the tune of $1 trillion, and they’re getting tired of it.
Democratic lawmakers in Maryland, New York, Connecticut, and Wisconsin have introduced bills directing state officials to withhold payments to the federal government if federal agencies act unlawfully or withhold funds previously appropriated by Congress.
These aren’t hypothetical protest votes - these are operational blueprints for financial warfare.
The concept isn’t entirely new. Northern states used personal liberty laws to make the Fugitive Slave Act virtually unenforceable between 1780 and 1859, with only 330 slaves returned despite federal law. What’s different now is the scale and coordination. Three sources on daily Zoom calls between Democratic attorneys general say the same phrase keeps coming up: soft secession.
Red states figured this out long ago. Eleven states call themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries” and refuse to enforce federal gun restrictions. Texas has been practicing soft secession for decades, cherry-picking which federal policies to implement. The difference is that blue states have more money and better lawyers.
We’re watching states quietly walk away from each other. Blue states will protect abortion rights, support organized labor, and defend individual rights. Red states will embrace Christian theocracy, suppress wages, and criminalize dissent.
The federal government will become just a hollow shell that states ignore when convenient.
The Adams County Sheriff case in Washington illustrates how far this goes. The state Attorney General is seeking an injunction against a sheriff for cooperating with federal immigration enforcement, arguing he’s violating state law. Local officials must choose between federal directives and state law - the same dilemma Northern officials faced during the fugitive slave era.
Democrats get nervous when you use the term “soft secession.” They prefer euphemisms like “resistance” or “federalism” or “uncooperative federalism.” But call it whatever you want - the result is the same. States are building independent systems that render federal authority meaningless within their borders.
The leverage is real. California alone sends over $500 billion annually to the federal government. What happens if California’s franchise tax board “accidentally” delays federal transfers? The Treasury starts bouncing checks. That’s not how federal financing works in theory, but in practice, cash flow matters.
This isn’t about ideology anymore. It’s about math. Blue states produce the majority of tax dollars that keep the federal government operational, while red states consume the majority of federal benefits. When that relationship becomes untenable, something has to give.
Soft secession represents a fundamental shift toward a confederation of semi-autonomous regions rather than a unified nation-state. Whether that’s good or bad depends on your perspective, but it’s happening regardless. The question isn’t whether states will continue walking away from each other - it’s how far they’ll go before someone notices the federal government has become irrelevant.
I mentioned in a previous post this week that if you are a liberal and live in a red state - you might want to consider moving. Why? Because what should be clear by now is that no one is coming to save you. Blue states are circling their wagons and saving themselves.
#ratcclips
———————-
You probably remember Marjorie Taylor Greene ranting about a “national divorce” between red and blue states. What you might not realize is that the divorce is already happening - blue states just aren’t bothering to send the papers.
While political pundits debate whether America is headed for another civil war, something much quieter is unfolding. It’s called soft secession, and it’s not about dramatic declarations or turning state nd federal law enforcement on each other. It’s about Democratic governors holding encrypted video calls to coordinate resistance, attorneys general filing lawsuits within hours of federal orders, and states quietly building parallel systems that make federal authority irrelevant within their borders.
The infrastructure for this resistance didn’t appear overnight. Oregon is stockpiling abortion medication in secret warehouses. California sits on $76 billion in reserves and gets to decide how to deploy it. Illinois is exploring something called “digital sovereignty” - whatever that means, but it sounds expensive for the feds. Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey told MSNBC her state police would “absolutely not” help with Trump’s deportation efforts. She’s not bluffing, and she doesn’t need to be.
The beautiful irony here is that conservative Supreme Court justices handed blue states the legal framework for this resistance on a silver platter. The anti-commandeering doctrine from cases like Printz v. United States means the federal government can’t force states to implement federal programs. Justice Scalia wrote that the feds “cannot require states and localities to carry out its immigration policy.” Those conservative justices probably never imagined blue states would use their own legal precedents to ignore federal authority, but here we are.
Blue states have been practicing soft secession for years without calling it that. Twenty-five states refused to implement REAL ID requirements starting in 2007, delaying enforcement for nearly two decades. During Trump’s first term, Democratic attorneys general filed over 130 multistate lawsuits with an 83 percent success rate. They maintain “brief banks” with pre-drafted lawsuits ready for immediate filing - the modern equivalent of how Northern states coordinated legal resistance against fugitive slave laws.
The economic leverage is extraordinary. Blue states are what economists call “giver states” - they send far more tax revenue to Washington than they receive back in federal investment. Massachusetts sends $4,846 more per capita to the federal government than it receives. New York contributed $142.6 billion more than it received over five years. The total transfer from blue to red states exceeded $1 trillion between 2018 and 2022.
That’s not a typo.
Blue states are subsidizing red states to the tune of $1 trillion, and they’re getting tired of it.
Democratic lawmakers in Maryland, New York, Connecticut, and Wisconsin have introduced bills directing state officials to withhold payments to the federal government if federal agencies act unlawfully or withhold funds previously appropriated by Congress.
These aren’t hypothetical protest votes - these are operational blueprints for financial warfare.
The concept isn’t entirely new. Northern states used personal liberty laws to make the Fugitive Slave Act virtually unenforceable between 1780 and 1859, with only 330 slaves returned despite federal law. What’s different now is the scale and coordination. Three sources on daily Zoom calls between Democratic attorneys general say the same phrase keeps coming up: soft secession.
Red states figured this out long ago. Eleven states call themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries” and refuse to enforce federal gun restrictions. Texas has been practicing soft secession for decades, cherry-picking which federal policies to implement. The difference is that blue states have more money and better lawyers.
We’re watching states quietly walk away from each other. Blue states will protect abortion rights, support organized labor, and defend individual rights. Red states will embrace Christian theocracy, suppress wages, and criminalize dissent.
The federal government will become just a hollow shell that states ignore when convenient.
The Adams County Sheriff case in Washington illustrates how far this goes. The state Attorney General is seeking an injunction against a sheriff for cooperating with federal immigration enforcement, arguing he’s violating state law. Local officials must choose between federal directives and state law - the same dilemma Northern officials faced during the fugitive slave era.
Democrats get nervous when you use the term “soft secession.” They prefer euphemisms like “resistance” or “federalism” or “uncooperative federalism.” But call it whatever you want - the result is the same. States are building independent systems that render federal authority meaningless within their borders.
The leverage is real. California alone sends over $500 billion annually to the federal government. What happens if California’s franchise tax board “accidentally” delays federal transfers? The Treasury starts bouncing checks. That’s not how federal financing works in theory, but in practice, cash flow matters.
This isn’t about ideology anymore. It’s about math. Blue states produce the majority of tax dollars that keep the federal government operational, while red states consume the majority of federal benefits. When that relationship becomes untenable, something has to give.
Soft secession represents a fundamental shift toward a confederation of semi-autonomous regions rather than a unified nation-state. Whether that’s good or bad depends on your perspective, but it’s happening regardless. The question isn’t whether states will continue walking away from each other - it’s how far they’ll go before someone notices the federal government has become irrelevant.
I mentioned in a previous post this week that if you are a liberal and live in a red state - you might want to consider moving. Why? Because what should be clear by now is that no one is coming to save you. Blue states are circling their wagons and saving themselves.
#ratcclips
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:14 pm to HeadSlash
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They would be good war cheerleaders.
Disagree. They would question every shot and death. That's not fair, you have the strength to load and fire a gun. Did you have to kill him? He wasn't really going to hurt you.
That describes the fans. The cheerleaders are the Schumer, Maxine, AOC, Crocket types. Yelling, “ hit ‘em again, hit ‘em again, harder, harder from the safety of the sidelines.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:14 pm to Crawdaddy
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The federal government will become just a hollow shell that states ignore when convenient.
Nice thought, but I can’t agree with this.
All the Fed has to do is cut off money to a disobedient state and sit back an watch it crumble. Much of the South would be in flames in less than 2 weeks.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:16 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I’m not sure any of them have really pondered for one second what that might actually look like.
We are here.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:24 pm to bamadontcare
I wish they would
I have a dark side I’d like to try out on a few commies
I have a dark side I’d like to try out on a few commies
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:29 pm to Crawdaddy
quote:
Blue states produce the majority of tax dollars that keep the federal government operational, while red states consume the majority of federal benefits.
Now do resources.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:29 pm to bamadontcare
Haven’t read anything but the OP yet but I’m going to reply anyway.
The people(person?) pulling the strings on the left wants to tear down society and rebuild it as they see fit. His name is George Soros and it’s called Open Society.
The people(person?) pulling the strings on the left wants to tear down society and rebuild it as they see fit. His name is George Soros and it’s called Open Society.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:31 pm to Crawdaddy
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California sits on $76 billion in reserves and gets to decide how to deploy it.
That was a long delusional post.
Capital is mobile. And so are leeches.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:31 pm to bamadontcare
They want to Cos play a Civil War.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:00 pm to TFH
quote:
His name is George Soros
He is 95 years old.
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:38 pm to goatmilker
Whichever side would be in power will use the military to crush the opposing side, I’d think.
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