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re: 'Due process' was stripped from illegals by President Clinton & Congress in the 1990s

Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
43628 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

You'd denigrate every virtous part that exists.


As a bonafide goose-stepper, “virtue” include rape and child abuse.

I do not align with the goose-steppers.

The leftists running the Democratic Party are vile.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:02 pm to
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So you are just here to be a leftist cheerleader? Congrats, I guess.



I haven't educated myself enough to have an opinion worth stating about the OP. I am a textualist, civil libertarian. I'm as far away from being a leftist as you can be.

I was just agreeing with the statement that Congress can't change the Constitution. Why that upsets you so irrationally that you need to make up things about me, I don't know.

Personally, I thank God that I live in the greatest country in the world where our forefathers drafted the Bill of Rights to ensure the protection of our God-given freedoms. I am particularly thankful for my 1st and 2nd rights.

You don't think that's worth celebrating. I do.




Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:06 pm to
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Consider now the case of the guy who was taken and sent to prison in El Salvador. He had an order of a federal court authorizing his presence in the United States.


Kilmar Abrego? No he didn't.
In fact, the judge denied his asylum request. The judge didn't say he couldn't be removed from the US, just that he couldn't be sent to El Salvador.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23712 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:09 pm to
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I am a textualist, civil libertarian

Oh look, another one of these type of posters. Y’all always say this then take on every leftist position you can.

Anyway….. nothing you or SFP posted about had anything to do with the OP. All he was doing was hijacking a thread and you was there to cheer him on. If you want to wax poetically about the greatness of our Constitution and Country, start a thread and I’ll join you.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16863 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:10 pm to
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SlowFlowPro
Congress cannot "strip" a fundamental Constitutional right. Only amending the Constitution can do so.
expedited removal became law in 1996.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:10 pm to
Stephen miller needs to make this point.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:27 pm to
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following the Constitution


You want to rewrite this because you don't like what it says.

You don't want to follow anything
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2144 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Correct. The large majority of people aren't given expedited orders though, and even then they can still request, and are required to be given, Credible Fear Interviews if they claim a fear of return. If they pass the CFI then they are put into 240 removal proceedings. During those proceedings they are subject to mandatory detention, which I have seen to be a major deterrent to requesting CFI's.


I know that the statute allows expansive removal for people who have been present in the U.S. for up to two years - but how often has that been used - if at all. I know the Trump administration made it policy in the first term but backed off after two courts found problems with it.

Normally - it is used for those people arriving at a port of entry or having just entered without proper clearance or whatever. Thus, there would be no right to due process at all under the theory that they are not detained - they are simply being denied entry.

Again - most of the discourse in this area is purposefully meant to confuse and inflame.

I get some of the "concern" with the use of the AEA - but that has hardly been used and like I said above - the government has consistently take the position that those detained under the AEA have the right to a habeas hearing if they wish to exercise it.
Other than that, people are talking past each other to further fuel peoples' pockets with money.

Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:28 pm to
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I do not align with the goose-steppers.


Then stand against the people stripping people of their rights.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16863 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:44 pm to
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You want to rewrite this because you don't like what it says.


quote:

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can summarily remove certain noncitizens from the United States without a hearing before an immigration judge
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16863 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Then stand against the people stripping people of their rights.
quote:

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can summarily remove certain noncitizens from the United States without a hearing before an immigration judge
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:01 pm to
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Y’all always say this then take on every leftist position you can.


What "leftist position" have I taken?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:37 pm to
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You want to rewrite this because you don't like what it says.


It is written pretty well. There are some parts I would change and do away with, using the proscribed method of changing it. What I wouldn’t do is have a corrupt lawyer or judge parse out every syllable, in order to change its plain meaning and intent, which is what has happened for the last 150 years or so.

quote:

You don't want to follow anything


Well, I certainly don’t want to follow marxist/socialists into the utter shithole they seem to be demanding.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87893 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:23 pm to
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Also wrong


Did any republicans go meet with deported gang members?

The media and judges weren’t going after Obama like this.

Actually Trump was blamed for Obamas family separation and kids in cages.


The fact of the matter is this has happened and hasn’t been found unconstitutional.


People like you only bitch because it’s Trump.

None of you actually give a flying frick about laws or the constitution.


This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:35 pm to
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You want to rewrite this because you don't like what it says. You don't want to follow anything


Please link us to your criticism of district court judges clearly overstepping their constitutional powers. We all await you to prove you care about the constitution and aren’t just another useful idiot that thinks OMB. TIA.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16248 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:36 pm to
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Stephen miller needs to make this point.

Not sure how it would come up.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia did not qualify for expedited removal.

I would rather hear Miller explain why the deportation of Kilmar resulted in him being incarcerated in his home country and why the President of that country said it was because the US is paying him.

I don’t have many shits to give, especially when it comes to human pieces of shite, but I would like to know why we are paying to incarcerate people in another country. If he is El Salvador’s problem now, why isn’t El Salvador paying for his incarceration expenses?
Posted by rtr72
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
712 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:49 pm to
Your wrong
Posted by carnuba
tickfaw
Member since Jan 2009
1311 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:11 pm to
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Is every citizen of the world covered under the US Constitution?


this is the most brilliant thing ive ever seen posted
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:22 am to
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Please link us


The entitlement is insane.



Find it yourself
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2770 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:24 am to
Because you’re a consistent fricking liar. Prove it or shut the frick up
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