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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:44 pm to John Barron
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:44 pm to John Barron
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I told you yesterday I work 3 days a week.
Doubtful.
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:45 pm to OWLFAN86
I wonder what next big company will demand 5 days in the office.
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:45 pm to LSURussian
130 hrs a month @$15 an hour
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:48 pm to John Barron
Threads never get this long unless people aren't getting along.
Where's the joy?
Where's the joy?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:48 pm to LSURussian
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That's why I've asked him 3 times if he has been diagnosed as autistic because if he has I'm just going to ignore him and know "There by the grace of God go I."
That's not the spectrum, huffing gas causes this.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:49 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:Does he work from home??
130 hrs a month @$15 an hour
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:49 pm to John Barron
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John Barron
Dude. Just take the L and call it a night. You look dumber and dumber with every post.
Friendly advice.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:51 pm to BayouBlitz
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:51 pm to LSURussian
quote:Eric makes him clean
Does he work from home??
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:52 pm to The Baker
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Not everyone can afford childcare for the 7 or w/e kids he has.
Simple fix, don’t have kids you can’t take care of, frick off with the abortion BS. Personal responsibility solves all of this. Safe sex isn’t some new radical idea, I’m pretty sure it’s been a thing for a long time. If a woman really needs to be a cum dumpster, they make a pill for that.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:41 pm to John Barron
From what I have personally seen, the same people that are deadbeats in a WFH scenario are still deadbeats when forced to work in an office. The difference is, they make everyone else that is productive in the office miserable when they are in the office...
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ronricks would be jealous of where this thread just went
That dude is into small penis humiliation
What a fricking weirdo
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:45 pm to John Barron
I'm in that same camp. Folks have to do whatever it takes to survive in this economy.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's 300% overproduction.
Not necessarily.
The expected amount might have been way too low.
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Good workers will get more done in less time.
More than what/who and in less time than what/who?
More and less than other employees, or more and less than the same employee working from a workspace vs working from home?
You keep trying to obfuscate by creating a relative comparison smokescreen between employees in "tiers." That's not the comparison I'm talking about (and if you're even half the genius you're supposed to be, you know that, of course).
Employees who work from home spend way more time doing things other than working than employees who work in an office. That's simple common sense. There are far fewer distractions in an office and far more supervision and accountability. That's a simple fact.
That's WHY people WANT to WFH in the first place. At home they can work out. They can cook. They can play fetch with the dog. Heck, they could masturbate to porn if they wanted to and no one would ever know. There's no end to the list of things they can do at home that they can't do in an office.
That's true no matter what "tier" an employee is in.
Again, it's very simple. Just to make the numbers easy—I'm not saying that the exact number is this—let's say that an employee spends roughly twice the amount of time concentrating solely on work related tasks in a workspace as he or she would at home.
One would expect that they should either be able to accomplish roughly twice the amount of work in the same amount of time, or that they could accomplish the same amount of work in half the time.
If not, why not? What's the flaw in that reasoning?
The, "Well, I got my work done" is not the point that I've been making for the last 15 posts or so. The point is that if the expected workload is calibrated based on productivity at home, it's probably way too low.
If you insist on the "tiers" smokescreen, let's make it mathematical.
Given the assumption that the vast majority of employees will focus twice as much on work related tasks in a workplace vs a private, personal space, then create as many tiers as you like within that assumption.
Tier One—Mediocre Employees. We'll represent them by "X".
Tier Two—Better Than Average Employees. We'll represent them as "X+1".
Tier Three—Best Employees. We could represent them as "X+2," or "X+3," or whatever you want. We could use "X+150" if you think they are that much better than Tier 1s and 2s. It doesn't matter.
Because the equation that you are avoiding is this one:
Tier One employee working from home = X
Tier One employee working in a workspace = 2(X)
Tier Two employee working from home = X + 1
Tier Two employee working in a workspace = 2(X + 1)
Tier Three employee working from home = X + 150
Tier Three employee working in a workspace = 2(X + 150)
Make as much differentiation as you like between the tiers. Change up the representation to reflect more or less difference between them all you want.
The important number is the 2 that comes before those representations when we're talking about them working in a workspace vs working at home.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:08 am to John Barron
Hey, Snitch, I see where Bill Clinton said he believes a conservative, Republican woman would have the best chance of being the first woman to be elected POTUS.
So have you you considered running for President?
So have you you considered running for President?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:20 am to wackatimesthree
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They can cook.
Do people at the office not microwave stuff and make lunches there? Is this an office with no snacking allowed?
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They can play fetch with the dog.
Granted most offices don't have dogs some certainly do.
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Heck, they could masturbate to porn if they wanted to and no one would ever know.
While I've always thought this repulsive you won't be surprised to find out this happens in offices if you're high level and bathrooms at low levels. There was a whole reddit thing about this way back when.
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I'm not saying that the exact number is this—let's say that an employee spends roughly twice the amount of time concentrating solely on work related tasks in a workspace as he or she would at home.
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The important number is the 2 that comes before those representations when we're talking about them working in a workspace vs working at home.
That's a long post to say it relies entirely on this number you made up and that you don't even stand behind of double productivity.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:05 am to wackatimesthree
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That's WHY people WANT to WFH in the first place. At home they can work out. They can cook. They can play fetch with the dog. Heck, they could masturbate to porn if they wanted to and no one would ever know. There's no end to the list of things they can do at home that they can't do in an office.
Exactly. Most office workers do not have a solid 8 hours of work to do every single day. Everyone has down time sometimes. Why not put the clothes in the dryer for 3 minutes at home rather than post on a message board from the office?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:25 am to James11111
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Threads never get this long unless people aren't getting along.
Yeah...it's pretty simple.
Private company...makes their own rules...work form home more power to you.
Government paid employee...get your arse back in the office.
End thread.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:39 am to DMAN1968
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Government paid employee...get your arse back in the office.
frick that I don't wanna pay for the real estate, electricity, office maintenance and management.
Hire people from low cost of living areas, pay them well for their area and spread this out nation wide. No more dc bubble
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:46 am
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:09 am to oklahogjr
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frick that I don't wanna pay for the real estate, electricity, office maintenance and management.
It's funny you think the government has abandoned or sold all those building that employees used to occupy.
Taxes are paying for those buildings and the people to stay home.
Again...private=do what you want. Federal employees, at least, will be going back to the office.
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