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re: Establishment's goal obliterate MAGA & lull Americans back to their previous pro-global
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:49 pm to RBTiger
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:49 pm to RBTiger
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He's America First! Anti-Woke!
Sure. That’s super easy as a Governor of a state.
What are his positions on borders, trade and war as president?
Now that’s hard. Prediction: he will ride the fence on those issues on the campaign trail and in practice he will talk though but serve Ken Griffin and the rest of his establishment donors cheap labor, trade giveaways to China, and more war.
Those three issues have been fricking the middle class for the last 40 years.
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:58 pm to RBTiger
Trumps surrounds himself with globalists just like every other wealthy person. He may be more pro-American than most he still needs is ventures funded.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:21 am to GumboPot
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Prediction: he will ride the fence on those issues on the campaign trail and in practice he will talk though but serve Ken Griffin and the rest of his establishment donors cheap labor, trade giveaways to China, and more war.
You believe Trump handled Covid as well as possible, and that his hands were tied from doing anything worthwhile. Your predictions are inane.
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Those three issues have been fricking the middle class for the last 40 years.
Nothing has fricked the middle class like Covid lockdowns and the transfer of wealth out of the middle class during that period.
And to be clear, I don’t ascribe nefarious intentions to Trump like you easily duped guys do DeSantis. Trump was just weak and not smart, and the middle class has been eating the resultant shite since mid-2020.
So pretend to have insight on whether DeSantis deals with the border as well as Trump would, speculation is fun. But what we know is that Trump is a pussy and is used to bowing down to the establishment under the threat of bad press.
Your blind spot where a Trump is concerned is weird. A guy that grew up entrenched in the establishment, was a part of the establishment and received its advantages as he built a business empire, then as president surrounded himself with establishment, grew the establishment’s government, gave the keys to the country to the establishment in 2020, left permanent government bigger and stronger and more intrusive then he found it, and all at the cost of rights held by common men and women - - - that guy, he’s not GOPe.
By contrast a guy that grew up middle class, never fit in with establishment types when he was at Yale, served in the military and then went into politics. Never bothered to amass any wealth. Has a track record as Governor that’s solid for the people, protecting rights and not bowing to the establishment. This is the guy that’s all in with the establishment, or about to be bought by it.
Crazy.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:25 am to SDVTiger
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SDVTiger
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99% of this board is getting roped into this
And too stupid to see it.
Seems like maybe we're coming back to our collective senses a little bit, hopefully. That was just a fricking terrible and pathetic 24 hours on this board. As bad as I've seen on any TD forum since Alleva hired Orgeron.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:27 am to David_DJS
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Prediction: he will ride the fence on those issues on the campaign trail and in practice he will talk though but serve Ken Griffin and the rest of his establishment donors cheap labor, trade giveaways to China, and more war.
You believe Trump handled Covid as well as possible, and that his hands were tied from doing anything worthwhile. Your predictions are inane.
That's literally all you have. Covid, and you lie time after time!
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Nothing has fricked the middle class like Covid lockdowns
Governors should have never locked their states down. Trump sure hell didn't. He lacked Constitutional Authority.
Keep lying. People will continue to see it.
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rump is a pussy and is used to bowing down to the establishment under the threat of bad press.
Now you are being coming a joke! Trump worried about bad press!!
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:28 am to TigerAxeOK
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And too stupid to see it.
Yes sir.
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Seems like maybe we're coming back to our collective senses a little bit, hopefully.
People have to stand up and correct the record with facts everyday here.
Like with the guy above your post. Constant lies. Nothing more than a liar.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:47 am to Jjdoc
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Keep lying.
You throw BS around like it matters to someone other than you.
I’m lying? About what? Nothing. I’m just voicing a point of view that makes your tummy hurt, and you don’t know how to respond to it.
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People will continue to see it.
As delusional as you are, you still have a sense of proportion, right? So tell me how you see/sense it -
I say lockdown Donny shite the bed on a Covid.
You say I’m “lying” about that.
Over the last six months, which of those opinions do you think more people have arrived at, as the reality/fakery of the plandemic became more and more apparent? It’s not even close, and it’s why you and other only-Trumpers are losing your minds.
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Now you are being coming a joke! Trump worried about bad press!!
Joke is on you, dumbass. You’re an idiot.
'I did it right, because if you do fire him you're going to have a firestorm on the left again, as usual,' Trump told Fox News' Maria Bartiromo
Sure looks like Trump didn’t fire Fauci because he was afraid of bad press.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:09 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What you call RINO globalist, I call respectable, civil, professional, diplomatic.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:13 am to David_DJS
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You throw BS around like it matters to someone other than you.
I’m lying? About what?
I have already told you. In every thread that you start this very rehearsed crap, I constantly correct you and you end up with nothing more than personal attacks.
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I’m just voicing a point of view that makes your tummy hurt, and you don’t know how to respond to it.
No, it's not your point of view. It's lies.
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You say I’m “lying” about that.
I don't say it, I prove it. EVERY TIME! From pointing out with facts that he lacked constitutional authority to do so to point out that it's why now ALL STATES LOCKED DOWN!
Pointing out your lies that Trump told Kemp not to reopen is one of my favorites. Want to go there again?
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Joke is on you, dumbass. You’re an idiot.
No no. Trump has never had an issue with bad press. It's all he ever got!
And he didn't mind going after them at all.
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'I did it right, because if you do fire him you're going to have a firestorm on the left again, as usual,'
Had nothing to do with the media.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:26 am to TigerAxeOK
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And too stupid to see it.
Seems like maybe we're coming back to our collective senses a little bit, hopefully. That was just a fricking terrible and pathetic 24 hours on this board. As bad as I've seen on any TD forum since Alleva hired Orgeron.
Yes... I got on here late last night, and the whining, quitting threads made me want to vomit. I had to immediately get back off. People falling for the lie that America has "Trump fatigue". The republican party leaders hate Trump, and will barely get behind anyone he endorses because of it. Between that and more shady democrat tactics, those are the problems. Not Trump.
I'm not comparing Trump in a literal sense to Jesus, obviously, but this really feels a lot like we're watching modern day pharisees. It doesn't matter what Trump does for this country, some of these people are just determined to find fault. He has his personal faults... as do we all. But we haven't had a better leader in this country.
I have long believed that God made it possible for Trump to take office, because he is uniquely suited for the role he has played in taking on the establishment. But every one of us has our own role to play in this fight. If people don't have the stomach for it, and just want to go back to status quo, then not only will we have lost the opportunity to get our country back to what it once was, we may lose it forever. I'm not giving up. I'm praying that the kinds of reactions I read yesterday were not representative of the majority. After all, we do have a good chance to take back both the House and Senate, despite all the negativity surrounding the lack of a red wave.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 1:30 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:28 am to Jjdoc
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don't say it, I prove it. EVERY TIME! From pointing out with facts that he lacked constitutional authority to do so to point out that it's why now ALL STATES LOCKED DOWN!
I’m beginning to think I’m debating an utter retard.
You don’t prove shite. You throw out a fact like “constitutional authority” like it has something to do with what I’m arguing. It doesn’t. You’re a moron.
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Pointing out your lies that Trump told Kemp not to reopen is one of my favorites. Want to go there again?
JFC you’re an idiot. I’ve never argued that Trump told Kemp not to reopen. I’m from Arizona. I don’t follow Kemp. Know nothing about the guy beyond what I read here.
That said, I haven’t read that Trump told Kemp not to reopen. I’ve read (in a thread yesterday) that Trump criticized Kemp for opening back up too soon. Are you saying that’s wrong?
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Had nothing to do with the media.
Yeah, he was afraid of Chuck and Nancy cursing that gosh darn Trump in private. Good point, dumbass.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:35 am to David_DJS
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You don’t prove shite. You throw out a fact like “constitutional authority” like it has something to do with what I’m arguing. It doesn’t.
Ok, then you admit Trump did not lock down the states. Good.
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Trump criticized Kemp for opening back up too soon. Are you saying that’s wrong?
Yep! That is exactly what I am saying. Trump stated Kemp needed to do what he felt was best for Ga, but he felt reopening certain types of businesses was a little too soon.
Just like he and DeSantis talked at the WH about FL reopening.
Trump called for stated to start reopening in April of 2020.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:37 am to David_DJS
That's ok...
These people got your back.
These people got your back.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:47 am to Jjdoc
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Ok, then you admit Trump did not lock down the states. Good
So you admit you were wrong. Good.
Nobody believes Trump ordered states to lockdown. What is argued, including by me, is he f’n supported lockdowns rhetorically and by funding all the horseshite. Moreover, it was his mishandling of the whole virus shitshow that enabled all of it. If he had handled Covid like an adult, none of it would have gotten away from him. Fauci would not have become a rockstar. Trump shite the bed on a Covid.
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Yep! That is exactly what I am saying. Trump stated Kemp needed to do what he felt was best for Ga, but he felt reopening certain types of businesses was a little too soon.
Oh, I see. You’re saying that it’s wrong to say Trump criticized Kemp for reopening too soon because what Trump actually said was that Kemp was reopening too soon.
I imagine that actually makes sense in your world.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 1:49 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:49 am to RBTiger
100% correct and a lot of mindless idiots are following along right on cue.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 1:52 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What you call RINO globalist, I call respectable, civil, professional, diplomatic
As always, there is no position you take we agree with. You also voted for Biden. You’re a big part of the reason we are in this shite position.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 2:03 am to David_DJS
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What is argued, including by me, is he f’n supported lockdowns rhetorically and by funding all the horse shite.
Down the path we go again....
He supported by words a short shutdown. March 15, 2020 States started locking down. Trump called for reopening in April.
Now do you want to compare DeSantis? He didn't totally reopen until 2021. He reopened in stages starting in May.
He most certainly did give tax payers their money back during that time.
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Moreover, it was his mishandling of the whole virus shitshow that enabled all of it. If he had handled Covid like an adult, none of it would have gotten away from him.
You are going to need to be more specific because this is nothing but a word salad.
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Oh, I see. You’re saying that it’s wrong to say Trump criticized Kemp for reopening too soon because what Trump actually said was that Kemp was reopening too soon.
Nowhere did I say that.
- Trump was asked an opinion and stated he felt that it was a little too soon for certain businesses specifically stating hair salons etc. That's not critizing. That's his opinion.
- Does Trump saying Kemp should do what he feels is best for GA sound like he is criticizing Kemp? No. Nothing in that is remotely close to that. In fact, it's more supportive than non supportive.
Huge difference in what you are trying to sell.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 2:28 am to Mickey Goldmill
Well now aren't you the village idiot.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 2:32 am to RBTiger
Give me one reason why Trump has a better chance to win in 2024 vs. Biden, compared to the 2020 loss
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 2:34 am
Posted on 11/10/22 at 2:35 am to Jjdoc
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Down the path we go again.... He supported by words a short shutdown. March 15, 2020 States started locking down. Trump called for reopening in April.
Trump funded the lockdowns from start to finish. He called for reopening late spring, and that’s great - but it was too late. He had already shite the bed and the Covid shitshow was off and running.
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You are going to need to be more specific because this is nothing but a word salad.
It’s not that hard. It shouldn’t even need to be explained to you. Do you realize how whack job out of the norm it was to do 98% of everything that was done re: Covid?
If Trump had not allowed Covid response to become a circus, he could have led the country through the pandemic without giving his opponents the opportunity to frick over the country/his re-election chances. There would have been no general shutdowns if state/local governments had to foot their own bill.
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Trump was asked an opinion and stated he felt that it was a little too soon for certain businesses specifically stating hair salons etc. That's not critizing. That's his opinion.
President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he’d informed Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia that he “strongly” disagreed with the governor’s decision to begin reopening parts of the state as soon as Friday, a high-profile break from a Republican ally.
“I told the governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp, that I disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities,” Trump said at a White House coronavirus task force press briefing.
Surely you can see how a lot of people might read that and believe Trump was criticizing Kemp?
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