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re: FDA approval for Pfizer vax only confirms what we already suspected

Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:32 am to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56442 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:32 am to
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It is not uncommon to close down trials when early evidence suggests a strong positive effect. It is considered unethical to keep people on the placebo when there is strong early evidence of a positive effect from the drug.


My is pharmacist...also quoted this verbatim
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11747 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:33 am to
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If I have a 99.75% chance to go big dick on COVID, then that's what I'll do.


Big dick falls hard when out of work and with $20k hospital bill. Not to mention the countless OTHER PEOPLE you infect along the way that might not share your same sentiment. Selfish
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2647 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:33 am to
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What would it cost you and your family for you to be out of work for 14-30 days or even worse in the hospital with bills?

No idea, but I'm confident in my insurance and financial position that it wouldn't be a cost concern.
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Or even worse, the fact that you’re walking around like a flea-infested dog passing the fleas to everyone around you (including children) for 10 days instead of only 2-3 days?

You might be wrong on this.
So vaccinated people can't spread COVID?

You're definitely wrong on this.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27400 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:33 am to
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So you don’t trust the FDA?


Is it a three letter federal agency?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78916 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:34 am to
If you read that article you’ll note that this drug was readily available in the 50s in Europe, BUT the FDA never approved it for morning sickness and it didn’t get approval in the us until the 90s with some significant requirement that women are warned not to get pregnant while using it and men are to not get their partners pregnant while using it.

Vioxx is a good example, but there is some evidence they lied to the FDA about efficacy, and the FDA says long term studies show there really isn’t a connection to CV diseas.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11747 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:34 am to
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So vaccinated people can't spread COVID?

You're definitely wrong on this.




Considering they only keep the viral load nasally for about 3 days instead of 10-15 days. Yes. You are getting clowned. Stop.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2647 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:34 am to
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Big dick falls hard when out of work and with $20k hospital bill. Not to mention the countless OTHER PEOPLE you infect along the way that might not share your same sentiment. Selfish

My financial position may not be the same as yours.

And you're implying that the vaccinated cannot spread COVID? You have some 'splaining to do.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27400 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:35 am to
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Not to mention the countless OTHER PEOPLE you infect along the way that might not share your same sentiment. Selfish



Now do abortion.

The bodily autonomy arguement used to justify abortion just doesn't fly out the window when Covid hits.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2647 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:35 am to
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Considering they only keep the viral load nasally for about 3 days instead of 10-15 days. Yes.

I'll ask again, can the vaccinated spread the disease?

You're smarter than me, so please keep it simple. A "yes" or "no" will do fine.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4022 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:36 am to
Pfrick Pfizer. Their shot pfricked me up
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127360 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:37 am to
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you are claiming Pfizer and Moderna manipulated the trials for their COVID vaccines?


Did you quote all of his post and not read it? Or did you just not understand it?
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11747 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:38 am to
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You have some 'splaining to do.



I’m not a doctor but with fewer breakthrough infections it means that there are much fewer vaccinated people spreading the virus. And they only spread for a couple days.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2647 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:40 am to
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I’m not a doctor but with fewer breakthrough infections it means that there are much fewer vaccinated people spreading the virus. And they only spread for a couple days.

So the vaccinated can still spread the disease?

That's the part I'm unclear on. Yes or no?
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11747 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:43 am to
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That's the part I'm unclear on. Yes or no?


Yes, but not as long, meaning less spread. Are you retarded or something? Or just selfish?


You do you, neck.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:44 am
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2647 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:46 am to
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Yes, but not as long, meaning less spread. Are you retarded or something? Or just selfish?


You do you, neck.
That's been the plan all along.

My body, my choice.

If you see my maskless self in public, keep your distance. That'll be your safe space.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:48 am to
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I believe there's over 20 scientists that vote for FDA approval. Are they all in on the conspiracy?
see how stupid and naive grown human beings are. this idiot is exactly why we can't win a war against these evil people, too many stupid people among us.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127360 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:48 am to
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Yes, but not as long, meaning less spread. Are you retarded or something? Or just selfish?


1). I’ll bet you’re pro-choice.
2). You took a virtuous stance here only to have it decimated. There’s no moral high ground in hypothetically reducing the chance of spreading the disease. You can pretend there is. But your philosophical argument is shite.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46303 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:50 am to
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you're right. ALMOST. it's free. that's a benefit in itself.
Something you don't want or need is not a benefit just because that thing is free.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19496 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:51 am to
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I don't know, but you can start with Thalidomide survivors.


FDA never approved thalidomide. They were approached, but refused. Glaxo-Smith-Kline ran clinical trials and cancelled them (never specified why). Richardson-Merrell later took the patent and approached FDA for approval. A man named Oldham Kelsey, who was head of FDA's scientific panel, refused their request because he didn't trust their data. After it came out how bad the drug was, Kelsey won the Presidential medal of Freedom.

Thalidomide was a problem in Europe. The Germans approved it in '57 and later other Euro countries followed suit. It was never approved in America. Any Americans who took the drug did so as part of clinical trials.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11747 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:00 pm to
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My body, my choice.


I’m pro-life btw

Anyhow,

It’s ok to be dumb or average IQ. That’s probably the largest segment of the human population.

It’s also ok to be wrong. People are wrong all the time. I’m wrong about certain things all the time. Ask my wife.

But being dumb, wrong AND being too stubborn to admit it and change is inexcusable and in this case, dangerous to you and other’s health. It’s juvenile thinking. Not even mentioning the financial burden this could cause.

If you are financially sound, great. You can move on without a blink. Is your neighbor?

If you are healthy and capable of surviving covid again? Great! You can do it without hospitalization. But can your neighbor? And say you do get hospitalized….they can just inject you with regeneron and you’ll be fine. It’s a checkmate to Covid if used early enough. But they are short supply as of now.

Why not protect your neighbor? Oh, because you’re dumb, wrong and stubborn.

This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 12:05 pm
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