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re: Federal Circuit clears path for tariff refunds

Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:43 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140341 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:43 am to
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They fricked up, bigly.




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The Trump admin chose to enact tariffs via a statute (the IEEPA) that did not authorize tariffs.


It's almost like this was the plan. But what the hell do I know
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
17589 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:44 am to
Other countries to the US........ frick ya'll we ain't giving shite back is that it goes how many people in DC really wanna MAGA maybe a handful, the rest just have their hands out waiting for kick backs
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140341 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:44 am to
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My point was that the refunds will never make it to end users. It will be a windfall for importers and wholesalers.


It's a MAJOR windfall (4-5X) if you purchased the rights to tariff refunds from importers.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
81424 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:45 am to
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Are these companies going to issue reciprocal refunds to their customers for the increased costs they passed on?


If they already passed on the tariffs, they have no claim because they have no damage.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
147 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:45 am to
Its weird to me that Im being down voted for reporting a relevant court opinion. It doesn't hurt my feelings or anything, I just thought this board was interested in tariff news.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140341 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:47 am to
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Its weird to me that Im being down voted for reporting a relevant court opinion. It doesn't hurt my feelings or anything, I just thought this board was interested in tariff news.


Look into how Howard Lutnick's boys at Canter Fitzgerald will benefit form these tariff refunds.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471784 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:48 am to
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Seems like it was a genius move now that Kavbaw gave them the roadmap moving forward


He didn't.

Those statutes already existed and the admin had already started pivoting to them while the case was ongoing (prior to the final ruling) because they knew they were going to lose.

Me and several other posters also said they should have used the statutes Kavabaw cited, and there are threads on here where Bessent referenced them also prior to the ruling.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471784 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:49 am to
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It's almost like this was the plan. But what the hell do I know

Why do y'all always do this weird cope-pivot to try to turn absolute frickups into some version of x-D backgammon?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137214 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:49 am to
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That is a matter between them and their customers
More litigation awaits. The fiduciary corporate strategy should be to let sleeping dogs lie, especially for companies which can show little to no profit loss, or those who passed costs on. We'll see how it works out.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
18305 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:49 am to
Waiting for the Morris Barts of class action lawsuits to start the tv commercials for people overcharged by corporate America since corporate will gets rebated for tariffs
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3403 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:51 am to
Courts making a decision on economic policy is similar to having chimpanzees performing brain surgery, it is messy and ends with a dead patient……



Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96406 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:51 am to
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He didn't.





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threads on here where Bessent referenced them also prior to the ruling.



So they knew and wanted the SC to makenthr ruling. Stable genius
Maybe you should apply for a job since you also knew. Seems like you have a lot of free time you could be a great asset for the admin
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27423 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:52 am to
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Why do y'all always do this weird cope-pivot to try to turn absolute frickups into some version of x-D backgammon?


I don't think you understand his claim.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471784 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:52 am to
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So they knew and wanted the SC to makenthr ruling. Stable genius

How is taking a huge L and appearing illiterate a "stable genius" move?

Nothing about that ruling was good for the admin.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27423 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:53 am to
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Nothing about that ruling was good for the admin.


Unless you're Lutnick.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471784 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:53 am to
Oh I get he's doing the Lutnick conspiracy theory/corruption angle, but the underlying mechanics of the scheme are spinning frickups into some plan when it was just a huge error.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140341 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:53 am to
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Why do y'all always do this weird cope-pivot to try to turn absolute frickups into some version of x-D backgammon?


It's not 3D backgammon.

Howard Lunick's boys at Canter Fitzgerald purchased the right to tariff refund contracts at 20-30cents on the dollar from importers. It's an easy decision for importers because the tariff paid was sunk cost and they had a very different risk ranking of the transaction than Canter Fitzgerald.
This post was edited on 3/3/26 at 8:27 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96406 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:54 am to
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Nothing about that ruling was good for the admin.


You are to much of a drama queen
Nothing was "bad" about the ruling

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27423 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:54 am to
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Oh I get he's doing the Lutnick conspiracy theory/


The what? What's the "conspiracy theory" here?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471784 posts
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:55 am to
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Howard Lunick's boys at Canter Fitzgerald purchased the right to tariff refund contracts at 2-3 cents on the dollar from importers. It's an easy decision for importers because the tariff paid was sunk cost and they had a very different risk ranking of the transaction than Canter Fitzgerald.

This was all done months after the admin fricked up.

Lutnick was just smart enough to realize the error of their frickup after the fact. It doesn't show he planned this and it ignores the other actors involved (specifically Bessent).
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