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re: For all you anti-immigrant types...
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:05 pm to Jbird
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:05 pm to Jbird
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Are you saying that picture isn't extreme actions by whitey?
The frick?
One actually happened, which was more a poke at the irony of the comment he made than anything else.
The hypothetical he threw out for gits and shiggles won't ever happen. I never once stated "let them all in" but that is what some conservatives jump to if anyone disagrees with their immigration stance
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:08 pm to The Calvin
quote:There are libs on this very board that have made that very comment, they want open borders.
I never once stated "let them all in" but that is what some conservatives jump to if anyone disagrees with their immigration stance
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:08 pm to The Calvin
The white guilt is strong with you.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:10 pm to Jbird
Well i'm pretty staunch on my immigration stance FTR and would be completely against whatever open borders they're talking about, or an unnecessary leniency to people who come here illegally.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:11 pm to The Calvin
quote:Fair enough.
Well i'm pretty staunch on my immigration stance FTR and would be completely against whatever open borders they're talking about, or an unnecessary leniency to people who come here illegally.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:13 pm to ClydeFrog
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The white guilt is strong with you.
Nah brother
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:01 pm to Patrick O Rly
Then you should hate illegal immigration which suppresses the wages of the low skill jobs. Without an influx of illegal immigrants that are exploited for low wages, would not the wages of the low skilled legal workers increase based on the law of supply and demand? Or do you not believe that wages are correlated with labor supply?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:49 pm to ChEgrad
I am pro legal immigration. I am dead set against illegal aliens.
Move the Armed Forces to the border to prevent any more armed Mexican military incursions into US territory, then the BP can do its' job and send the illegals back to Mexico. They let them pass through their country let them deal with the problem,they helped create it.
Move the Armed Forces to the border to prevent any more armed Mexican military incursions into US territory, then the BP can do its' job and send the illegals back to Mexico. They let them pass through their country let them deal with the problem,they helped create it.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:59 pm to Hmerly
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U are dumb
so, so dumb
op quotes a poem and apparently claims it's somehow our constitutional mandate.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:04 pm to The Calvin
You proved the point...perhaps if the Indians had been a little more aggressive in their immigration policies, they might not have this problem
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:07 pm to JazzyJeff
Let's discuss remittance from the United States to Mexico.
In 2011, it came to 23 billion dollars. Untaxed income that is being drained from our economy.
LINK
This is why the Mexican government is in favor of open borders. It is keeping their economy afloat.
This does not even begin to address how illegal immigrants are using local services which they are not being taxed for (schools, medical care, etc).
Legal immigration? Absolutely. Work permits/visas? Absolutely (if they are taxed on their income - local, state and federal).
Open borders? No.
In 2011, it came to 23 billion dollars. Untaxed income that is being drained from our economy.
LINK
This is why the Mexican government is in favor of open borders. It is keeping their economy afloat.
This does not even begin to address how illegal immigrants are using local services which they are not being taxed for (schools, medical care, etc).
Legal immigration? Absolutely. Work permits/visas? Absolutely (if they are taxed on their income - local, state and federal).
Open borders? No.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:24 pm to northshorebamaman
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I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it, to support its Constitution, to obey its laws, to respect its flag, and to defend it against all enemies...
Foreign and domestic. FIFY.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:27 pm to ChEgrad
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Then you should hate illegal immigration which suppresses the wages of the low skill jobs.
There's a lot of things that do that, minimum wage for one. Cheap labor isn't a bad thing. It keeps prices low. The immigrant workers are making more money than they would otherwise. These workers also need services, so guess what? Jerbs.
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Without an influx of illegal immigrants that are exploited for low wages, would not the wages of the low skilled legal workers increase based on the law of supply and demand? Or do you not believe that wages are correlated with labor supply?
The problem is your currency is constantly being devalued, and services that people really need (food, college, health care) are inflated by subsidies, government backed student loans, and monopolized health care markets in which insurance has turned into a primary payment method. The systems are bogged down in absolutely NEEDLESS bureaucracy. It's the lower class that are effected by it the most, and they are usually given assistance which further inflates these markets.
People will cry about the growing wealth gap but won't mention what's being done to the currency, which is half of every transaction.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:28 pm to JazzyJeff
I am pro immigrant, but I am anti illegal. I welcome any and all here, just do it legally. Why is is this wrong?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:31 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I am pro immigrant, but I am anti illegal. I welcome any and all here, just do it legally. Why is is this wrong?
Would you be in favor of a cheap, streamline system? Because right now the cost are prohibitive to a lot of people, and it makes entering illegally a more attractive option?
I mean, it's rhetorical because no one is listening to us anyway.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:43 pm to JazzyJeff
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This is only for white people from Europe I guess and not those brown people from down south.
What an incredibly racist post.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:32 pm to Patrick O Rly
No problem with cheap. Just apply, go through legal steps and meet a firm set of standards. When this is met give them a green card and turn them loose.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:40 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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No problem with cheap. Just apply, go through legal steps and meet a firm set of standards. When this is met give them a green card and turn them loose.
What you're describing really wouldn't be cheap though. What set of standards do you mean?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:49 pm to Patrick O Rly
Why couldn't it be cheap? Standards such as much as possible verify that they aren't a criminal. That they aren't carrying any contagious disease. Some form of simple test proving they can function in society. I would even want a system to where they had to check in with a immigration officer every 3 months to just gauge if they are adjusting and conforming with American life and laws. That would benefit both the immigrant and the USA.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:50 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Ponchy making sense up in here. 
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