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re: Governor Abbott releases statement on sgt perry
Posted on 4/9/23 at 1:53 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 4/9/23 at 1:53 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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That's what you do on streets. You drive. It's not like he drove up on the sidewalk.
His logic is that somehow an unruly mob has more right to the street than a guy engaging in the one activity a street was actually made for.
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Posted on 4/9/23 at 1:56 pm to texridder
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If you read the police interview, see Perry's cell phone records which disprove Perry's claim he was distracted by texting when he drove in the crowd, and see his social media discussions about how he could drive into a crowd and get away with it- you would come to the same conclusion as the jury.
None of that , if true, changes the affirmative defense. If you were a real attorney you would know that. Of course what you wrote is likely not true. You are pathological.
This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/9/23 at 2:10 pm to texridder
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The police departments almost always say it was a justified shooting.
You mean the people whose job it is to investigate crime know when a crime has been committed and when not? No way?
Posted on 4/9/23 at 2:23 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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You mean like charging people with murder when they clearly acted in self-defense? We’ve seen the left continuously engage in malicious prosecution of people who exercise their right of self-defense.
The facts of the case were not obvious which is why it went to a jury.
The self defense saying “Rather be Judged by 12 than carried by 6.” Sometimes the 12 that judge you, do not believe you were justified in your actions and you have a consequence. Just because you assert self-defense does not mean it was self defense.
After hearing the entire case, the jury believed he did not act in self defense.
While you do not have a duty to retreat, You cannot claim self defense for a situation you created or you intended to create.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 2:37 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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You cannot claim self defense for a situation you created or you intended to create.
I’ve seen nothing that leads me to believe this guy created the situation. He’s operating a vehicle legally upon a public road when approached by a mob when one of the mob members points a loaded weapon at him.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:03 pm to thebigmuffaletta
The testimony confirming Perry's anger toward protesters came on the third day of the trial as prosecutors displayed text messages and social media comments showing that he thought about killing them. "I might have to kill a few people on my way to work, they are rioting outside my apartment complex," Perry wrote to a friend in June of 2020. "I might go to Dallas to shoot looters," he wrote on another occasion. Perry also encouraged violence in a variety of social media posts.
In addition, Perry speculated about how he might get away with such a killing – by claiming self-defense, as he is now doing. Prosecutors presented a Facebook Messenger chat between Perry and a friend, Michael Holcomb, which occurred two weeks before he shot Foster. In it, Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense. Holcomb, who was called to the stand Wednesday afternoon, seemed to try to talk Perry down. "Aren't you a CDL holder too?" he asked, referring to the men's licenses to carry concealed handguns. "We went through the same training ... Shooting after creating an event where you have to shoot, is not a good shoot."
This claim – that Foster raised the barrel of his AK-47 – is, of course, Perry's principal hope to escape a murder conviction. It was refuted over and over during the first three days of the trial by witnesses who were near Foster that night. All repeated a version of the same story: They heard squealing tires as a car sped into a group of about 20 protesters. The protesters, some of whom had almost been hit by the car, slapped and kicked it. Garrett Foster strode to the car's side and issued an order to the driver. All of the witnesses insisted that Foster did not raise the barrel of his gun. According to the D.A.'s lead prosecutor, Guillermo Gonzalez, his gun was recovered with the safety still on and no bullet in the chamber
In addition, Perry speculated about how he might get away with such a killing – by claiming self-defense, as he is now doing. Prosecutors presented a Facebook Messenger chat between Perry and a friend, Michael Holcomb, which occurred two weeks before he shot Foster. In it, Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense. Holcomb, who was called to the stand Wednesday afternoon, seemed to try to talk Perry down. "Aren't you a CDL holder too?" he asked, referring to the men's licenses to carry concealed handguns. "We went through the same training ... Shooting after creating an event where you have to shoot, is not a good shoot."
This claim – that Foster raised the barrel of his AK-47 – is, of course, Perry's principal hope to escape a murder conviction. It was refuted over and over during the first three days of the trial by witnesses who were near Foster that night. All repeated a version of the same story: They heard squealing tires as a car sped into a group of about 20 protesters. The protesters, some of whom had almost been hit by the car, slapped and kicked it. Garrett Foster strode to the car's side and issued an order to the driver. All of the witnesses insisted that Foster did not raise the barrel of his gun. According to the D.A.'s lead prosecutor, Guillermo Gonzalez, his gun was recovered with the safety still on and no bullet in the chamber
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:08 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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It was refuted over and over during the first three days of the trial by witnesses who were near Foster that night.
A bunch of antifa twats gave statements that made the dead antifa twat look completely innocent?
You're still in school, aren't you.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:25 pm to Flats
Seems like Perry was trying to plan this.
“Perry speculated about how he might get away with such a killing – by claiming self-defense, as he is now doing. Prosecutors presented a Facebook Messenger chat between Perry and a friend, Michael Holcomb, which occurred two weeks before he shot Foster. In it, Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense. Holcomb, who was called to the stand Wednesday afternoon, seemed to try to talk Perry down. "Aren't you a CDL holder too?" he asked, referring to the men's licenses to carry concealed handguns. "We went through the same training ... Shooting after creating an event where you have to shoot, is not a good shoot." “
Seems like he wanted to create a situation and then claim to be a victim.
“Perry speculated about how he might get away with such a killing – by claiming self-defense, as he is now doing. Prosecutors presented a Facebook Messenger chat between Perry and a friend, Michael Holcomb, which occurred two weeks before he shot Foster. In it, Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense. Holcomb, who was called to the stand Wednesday afternoon, seemed to try to talk Perry down. "Aren't you a CDL holder too?" he asked, referring to the men's licenses to carry concealed handguns. "We went through the same training ... Shooting after creating an event where you have to shoot, is not a good shoot." “
Seems like he wanted to create a situation and then claim to be a victim.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:27 pm to Flats
Leftists cry about 2A until one of their heroes is open carrying an AK while rioting.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:27 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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tigerbaitlawyer
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this idiot
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Is this not a basic fact?
Yes
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:31 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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After hearing the entire case, the jury believed he did not act in self defense.
Bull. They ignored the facts.
If the ONLY thing different was that the Proud Boys were blocking the street, this never goes to trial.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:32 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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Seems like Perry was trying to plan this.
He planned a BLM riot trying to destroy a city, violently attack people, and prevent people from going about their life?
This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:34 pm to Bestbank Tiger
I would say the same thing regardless of the victim or defendant. The facts are the facts regardless of party.
This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:35 pm to JayDeerTay84
So you endorse vigilantism?
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:36 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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So you endorse vigilantism?
No. I do not support riots in cities destroying property, harming people, and disrupting society.
That is exactly what the BLM riots were. Vigilantism over made up fake racial bullshite.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:38 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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In it, Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense.
He’s correct. Shooting anyone is legal when it’s done in self-defense.
If you’d admit that you’re upset because the person who is going to be pardoned is right of center and that you’re a leftist pinko, you will be on your way to enlightenment.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:45 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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Perry argued that shooting protesters was legal if it was in self-defense
How is pointing out the law “planning” something?
It’s self defense for me to shoot someone if they break into my home and threaten my life and that’s exactly what I’d do in a situation like that. Me stating beforehand the law and how I’d act in a situation like that does not negate my right to self defense.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:48 pm to the808bass
I don’t give a shite about either party or what happens going further. I care about the extreme partisanship (on both sides) of outcome determinative results.
I am supporting the rule of law. In our society a dispute of facts are determined by a jury. Perry was given a fair jury trial and was convicted.
I am supporting the rule of law. In our society a dispute of facts are determined by a jury. Perry was given a fair jury trial and was convicted.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:51 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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How is pointing out the law “planning” something?
Did you keep reading?
“Holcomb, who was called to the stand Wednesday afternoon, seemed to try to talk Perry down. "Aren't you a CDL holder too?" he asked, referring to the men's licenses to carry concealed handguns. "We went through the same training ... Shooting after creating an event where you have to shoot, is not a good shoot."
The dude did exactly want he told his friend! Seems premeditated.
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:52 pm to tigerbaitlawyer
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I am supporting the rule of law.
Can you point me in the direction of the law that says its legal to engage in rioting while armed?
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