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re: Governor Inslee Demands ICE Stay Away From Polling Places
Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:58 am to LightHeat
Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:58 am to LightHeat
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Why? Trump lied about election fraud for months to rile up his base, had people submit false election certificates from swing states, sent a mob to the capitol on January 6 to intimidate Congress and, in particular, Mike Pence, all in an attempt to throw the voting to the House, which was GOP-dominated. And I've never seen anything to the contrary from the election-fraud gurus on this board that withstands even surface-level scrutiny.
You don’t do much research do you? Holy shite. 
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:04 pm to BBONDS25
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You don’t do much research do you? Holy shite.
I've done a ton, actually. After the election I spent about a full week, and hours at a time after that, looking at every theory I could find, vote dumps, Antrim County, the Paxton lawsuit, whatever. Because IF it actually happened, it would be important and I would want to really KNOW. My conclusion: it was all bad faith, all the way down. Everything fell apart under scrutiny. Everything. It was sometimes complicated: Do you remember that the guy who signed the declaration in Ken Paxton's lawsuit said there was a one-in-a-quadrillion (or something) chance of the election results being legit? You know how he calculated that? He assumed the election would be exactly the same as in 2016, and that every vote that differed from 2016 was an independent coincidence (the analogy might be something like every vote different was an independent coin flip coming up heads again). It's complete bullshite, because the election was not the same as 2016. The electorate was not the same, some voters died and others became adults, and the candidates were different, Hillary was no longer the D nominee and people had seen four years of Trump, the campaigns were not the same, and the world was not the same. But it was just one or two levels deep enough (most people don't know what a declaration is, how to find one, or how to recognize the math is shite). Literally everything I looked at was like that. bullshite but just complicated enough to be difficult to understand. It was evil.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:11 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Idiot clowns drinking the kool-aid
There isn't a single American citizen that wont get out and vote because they think ICE will stop the.. Not 1
Its a made up bs liberal mechanism. They want illegal voting
ALL I'd laws make it free to get IDs for those who cannot afford. Dems strike that down, every time. Guess why...easy...so morons will be brainwashed to go on website forums and argue that not having a fricking id is racist and shouldn't be needed at voting areas....just like ice. What about police?
Lol...liberal tards.."forcing id is racist"....."having ice ask for IDs is racist"
Yall are whining little bitches. Not 1 single republican of ANY race, especially Mexican, has said he scared to go vote. What does that tell you?
Now put on your oversized flappy shoes, and go protest officers who enforce our laws
I'm going to need to see your passport, because this is barely English.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:13 pm to TDTOM
@TDTOM lol. You can, you know, ask me. I might not answer.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:15 pm to Jbird
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Democrat leaders are becoming more honest and open about the key role illegal immigration plays in their election victories..
Dem leaders will never be willingly honest but their collective nervousness is forcing them to show their hand.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:27 pm to LightHeat
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I'm going to need to see your passport, because this is barely English.
You couldn’t understand his post? Yikes. What a moron you are.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
That’s SFP’s cycle of reasoning
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:31 pm to LightHeat
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I've done a ton, actually.
suuuuure. quote:
After the election I spent about a full week, and hours at a time after that, looking at every theory I could find, vote dumps, Antrim County, the Paxton lawsuit, whatever.
A whole week?
fricking idiot. It isn’t an episode of law and order. quote:
My conclusion: it was all bad faith, all the way down. Everything fell apart under scrutiny.
What scrutiny. The cases were dismissed on procedural issues. What was the record of the cases where the actual evidence was examined? You researched a week. You should know this.
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You know how he calculated that? He assumed the election would be exactly the same as in 2016, and that every vote that differed from 2016 was an independent coincidence
The statistical anomaly cannot be refuted. Nobody cares what this one guy says. Still…who told you that was how his study was based? Be specific.
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bullshite but just complicated enough to be difficult to understand. It was evil.
Indeed. But apparently you couldn’t comprehend the facts and are giddy to be on the side of evil.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:32 pm to LightHeat
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Why? Trump lied about election fraud for months to rile up his base, had people submit false election certificates from swing states, sent a mob to the capitol on January 6 to intimidate Congress and, in particular, Mike Pence, all in an attempt to throw the voting to the House, which was GOP-dominated. And I've never seen anything to the contrary from the election-fraud gurus on this board that withstands even surface-level scrutiny.
But you seem pretty certain--why is that?
This is exactly why all states must get aboard with voter ID. Voter ID protects democracy and would ensure tyrants such as Trump would never, ever have cause to rile up his crazy, cultish, MAGA base into extremely violent acts of insurection.
Edit to add: Vote in person instead of mail-ins also strengthens our democracy and erodes the Trumpster's insane accusations of mail-in fraud.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:34 pm to UtahCajun
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This is exactly why all states must get aboard with voter ID. Voter ID protects democracy and would ensure tyrants such as Trump would never, ever have cause to rile up his crazy, cultish, MAGA base into extremely violent acts of insurection.
Sounds good to me.
Although, Trump even claimed that Ted Cruz fixed the 2015 Iowa caucus, so I don't think voter ID laws will stop him.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:40 pm to LightHeat
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Although, Trump even claimed that Ted Cruz fixed the 2015 Iowa caucus, so I don't think voter ID laws will stop him
Oh but good sir, voter ID laws are the power of the state, not the federal government. The feds only dictate who is eligible to vote, but leaves the states the power to verify eligibility. So if the states would just get onboard, even Trump's outlandish claims of someone stealing the primaries would hold no water.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:54 pm to BBONDS25
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What scrutiny. The cases were dismissed on procedural issues. What was the record of the cases where the actual evidence was examined? You researched a week. You should know this.
I do know this. I'll give you an example. In Trump v. Wayne County, the Trump campaign sued Wayne County, and presented 102 declarations attesting to election irregularities. Rudy Giuliani went on TV and said there were thousands, but there were only 102. I read every single one of the declarations. Most were stupid, like "I asked a question of a vote tabulator and he was rude to me". There were like three that, if true, seemed more serious. Wayne county moved for summary judgment, attaching the declaration of its chief election officer, explaining why the more serious-looking declarations were standard procedure. The Trump campaign had the right to respond. And it's actually a pretty low standard--if there is a genuine issue of material fact that stage, the Trump campaign would win. But instead, the Trump campaign voluntarily dismissed the case, stating that actually the elections board could decide the issue (which was not true). So, the Trump campaign submitted a bunch of declarations, most of them were stupid, they lied about the number of them on TV, and when confronted with the explanation, they voluntarily dismissed the case and lied about it. What does that tell you?
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The statistical anomaly cannot be refuted. Nobody cares what this one guy says. Still…who told you that was how his study was based? Be specific.
Yes it can, and I'll be specific. "This one guy" that "no one cares" about is the one guy supporting Ken Paxton's lawsuit. Paxton submitted an expert declaration. I'm talking about that expert. I assume you're not agreeing with me, so you're probably just confused about who he is--a very basic fact here. And if you don't have the basic facts down, you probably have no basis to say "The statistical anomaly cannot be refuted."
And no one told me how is study was based, I read his declaration. I went to the source document and read it. Like you should if you really want to know what's going on.
If you want to walk through the facts of the Wayne County lawsuit with actual documents from the case, or look at the expert's declaration directly, or really any other 2020 election theory, in a very specific manner, just let me know.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:57 pm to UtahCajun
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Oh but good sir, voter ID laws are the power of the state, not the federal government. The feds only dictate who is eligible to vote, but leaves the states the power to verify eligibility. So if the states would just get onboard, even Trump's outlandish claims of someone stealing the primaries would hold no water.
Irony duly noted. But I actually agree with you. We would see, for example, fewer people here swallowing these theories whole if there were more solid voter ID.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:01 pm to UtahCajun
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Edit to add: Vote in person instead of mail-ins also strengthens our democracy and erodes the Trumpster's insane accusations of mail-in fraud.
Personally, I love mail-in voting, because it takes me 30 minutes as opposed to three hours. But if that's what it takes to make MAGA happy, sure, Let's march in Sacramento, Albany, wherever.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:05 pm to LightHeat
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So, the Trump campaign submitted a bunch of declarations, most of them were stupid, they lied about the number of them on TV, and when confronted with the explanation, they voluntarily dismissed the case and lied about it. What does that tell you?
It tells me that you don’t understand procedure very well and dismiss “only” 102 affidavits.
Were votes counted illegally in Georgia? Yes or no?
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Yes it can,
Wrong. It cannot. Name one other election where the bellwether overwhelming winner lost the election. I’ll wait.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:15 pm to LightHeat
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Irony duly noted. But I actually agree with you. We would see, for example, fewer people here swallowing these theories whole if there were more solid voter ID
Sarcastic tone was used to keep it light and keep from arguing.
Basic beliefs are we should do exactly what every other industrialized nation and most non-industrialized nations do when it comes to voting and ensuring the vote.
True anecdotal story. Not that it has anything to do with anything, but my father voted in state and federal elections the last cycle. It doesn't matter who he voted for. What matters is that he is a full time ward of a memory care facility in South Louisiana. He has very advanced dementia and thinks he is living at home with his parents, who died in the mid-90's. My uncle is the one who uncovered it. I do not need to tell the details. Just know legal action was taken. Anyway, that and many other examples of vote farming is rampant in tUSA. It needs to stop.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:30 pm to UtahCajun
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True anecdotal story. Not that it has anything to do with anything, but my father voted in state and federal elections the last cycle. It doesn't matter who he voted for. What matters is that he is a full time ward of a memory care facility in South Louisiana. He has very advanced dementia and thinks he is living at home with his parents, who died in the mid-90's. My uncle is the one who uncovered it. I do not need to tell the details. Just know legal action was taken. Anyway, that and many other examples of vote farming is rampant in tUSA. It needs to stop.
Ugh, sorry.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:33 pm to Jbird
Politicians who disenfranchise American voters by encouraging foreigners to illegally participate in our elections should be charged with treason and punished accordingly.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:45 pm to Jbird
There needs to be announcements before every election that ICE is going to have a heavy presence at all polling locations. You don't have to arrest all the illegals. You just have to make them too scared to act. If they do not show at the polls, because of their fear. Republicans win the election.
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