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Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:54 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:54 am to
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Are you not aware that the CDC literally had to change their own definition of “vaccine” in order to keep calling it a vaccine?
What is a vaccine?
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:16 pm to
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That is a leap of faith.
What if he observed it in his practice?
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:21 pm to
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How many were treated with remdesivir, and denied antibiotics and antiinflamatory drugs?

As I said, some died prior to even the vaccine and I don't remember exactly when remdemsivir came out but family wasn't even allowed to visit, I was not intimately involved in knowing how they were being treated? Which antibiotic would you have chosen for the virus. But, this I do know, all 6 were ventilated and died while on the ventilator.
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:28 pm to
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What if he observed it in his practice?


Don't take this the wrong way, but you're kind of slow.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you're kind of slow.

How so?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:36 pm to
MikeBRLA, sorry I didn't mean to run you off when I asked you what a vaccine is.

FWIW, dating back to Jenner, vaccination is a procedure employed to stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. A vaccine is the substance used to impart vaccination. Simple as that.

If someone felt need to change the definition of vaccination or vaccine for some reason, then their original definition was poorly conceived.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:40 pm to
Agree. People are ret-conning themselves into too narrow a definition of vaccines. It's like saying "this isn't an engine because there's no internal combustion..."
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:42 pm to
It's a good point except that coronavirus is the common cold
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:58 pm to
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It's a good point except that coronavirus is the common cold


Kind of backwards. Not all. Sort like the old saying "all that wheezes is not asthma".
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:08 pm to
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It's a good point except that coronavirus is the common cold
Yep, accounts for 20% or so
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:08 pm to
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vaccination is a procedure employed to stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. A vaccine is the substance used to impart vaccination


If true, then Interleukin 2 is a vaccine. So is interferon. So are Vitamins C, E, B6, and so is Zinc.

None of these biochemicals has ever been referred to as a vaccine. Until this thread, that is.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:11 pm to
Good tweet. He's right.

"Your body, my choice."
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:23 pm to
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So are Vitamins C, E, B6, and so is Zinc.
Do you really want to do this?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:06 pm to
Just reminding folks.

Vax vaccine. It isn’t.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:07 pm to
Youve proven yourself a moron, so why not dig deeper?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:16 pm to
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Youve proven yourself a moron
Maybe the first moron to have graduated medical school. Why don't you both throw your credentials up there and let us decide who the moron is?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136957 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 6:06 am to
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quote:

vaccination is a procedure employed to stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. A vaccine is the substance used to impart vaccination
If true, then Interleukin 2 is a vaccine. So is interferon. So are Vitamins C, E, B6, and so is Zinc. None of these biochemicals has ever been referred to as a vaccine. Until this thread, that is.
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Youve proven yourself a moron, so why not dig deeper?
Sorry I missed this bit of eloquence yesterday, albeit from a guy who believes Zinc to be a "biochemical."


I'll try to keep this basic.

Does your "biochemical" Zinc stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen?
Of course not!

Vaccination induces pathogen-specific immunity. Pathogen-specific immunity entails formation of antigen-targeting antibodies.

Antibodies attack and neutralize specific antigenic pathogens. Whereas essential elements, vitamins, and cytokines play roles in the immune process, none is pathogen-specific.
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