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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:35 am to Powerman
Treaties provide access only so long as political conditions remain favorable and can be revised, limited, or withdrawn as governments and priorities change. Ownership removes that vulnerability by eliminating host-nation vetoes, renegotiation risk, and ambiguity over long-term control. Ownership also allows the US to exclude adversaries (namely Russia or China) from infrastructure, investment, ports, airspace, and dual-use “civilian” projects. We cannot fully rely on treaties for this exclusion—especially while Europe and Canada are increasingly cozying up to China. So while treaties may suffice for present needs, ownership offers permanence, certainty, and strategic denial that access agreements cannot match.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:35 am to Hangover Haven
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I'm pretty sure they made it that size to highlight its location, not it's size... You guys need to find better arguments...
Pretty sure you are ignorant and lazy. Look up "map projections" or Mercator projections. Will explain it all to you.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:36 am to dgnx6
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Looks like we can take greenland and you can still buy a house.
Nah, check the 10-year treasury note lately and get back to me. Mortgage rates aren't going down by any measurable amount for a while.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:36 am to Techdave
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I mean really....what would owning Greenland actually do for us?
Strategic defense purposes. I swear, you people are so slow.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:37 am to Techdave
Even the NATO Sec General says Greenland is extremely important and needs defended against the Chicoms and Russia.
Do you even have a globe?
Do you even have a globe?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:37 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Strategic defense purposes. I swear, you people are so slow.
We can do that now. And without spending $1 trillion or whatever this will cost.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:38 am to Techdave
Not really
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:39 am to FLTech
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Oh look.. another Panican who cannot fathom the fact that a president can actually walk and chew gum at the same time - meaning he can actually do multiple things at once
No panic in me bro. Just would rather that money go to something like the deficit. Not more government spending.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:39 am to Powerman
That's false. We have an old military agreement in place with Denmark, but Denmark retains authority over the islands defense and foreign policy concerns. There are major concerns about whether the current Danish-U.S. defense framework is sufficient to adequately respond to Russian militarization in the Arctic. Greenland is surrounded by Russian and Chinese naval activity and Denmark lacks the capacity to defend it. Essentially these are the same reasons Truman tried to purchase Greenland after WW2.
Also, without ownership, we can't leverage oil, gas, and rare earth minerals for the benefit of the American people and Greenlanders - and cannot offset defense investments in the Northern Atlantic required to stave off China and Russia.
Also, without ownership, we can't leverage oil, gas, and rare earth minerals for the benefit of the American people and Greenlanders - and cannot offset defense investments in the Northern Atlantic required to stave off China and Russia.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:39 am to AllbyMyRelf
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Not really
Yes really
Nothing is stopping us from setting up more bases there
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:40 am to Powerman
That’s not the only strategic value
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:41 am to Techdave
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I mean really....what would owning Greenland actually do for us?
Take a look at a map for one thing. If we don’t get it Russia and/or China will.
Secondly we need the mineral resources.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:42 am to Islander
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Pretty sure you are ignorant and lazy. Look up "map projections" or Mercator projections. Will explain it all to you.
It's an illustration dude, I don't think it's anything officially used in strategic warfare for global positioning....
Stolen from BugAC.
This one better?
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:45 am to Kattail
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Take a look at a map for one thing. If we don’t get it Russia and/or China will.
Secondly we need the mineral resources.
This is literally only about the recourses. If Russia's incompetent arse tried to take Greenland for military purposes we would shut that shite down. Verdict on China is still out if they give a shite about it.
We already have access there for military. If it was a concern we would already have more there, but we don't.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:45 am to KiwiHead
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We have it. The Danes have never said no to our requests.
I think you mean, we can get it if we need it without owning it. If so, I agree. I also agree that this is about Trump's ego. This is part of the bad that we get with an egomaniacal narcissist. But I doubt anyone who did not have those bad traits could have persevered and cut through the deep state mass.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:46 am to Techdave
You don't realize we had over 30 military installations and bases in Greenland since WW2? We only reduced after the Soviet Union collapsed. Russia is increasingly belligerent and trying to reconstitute it's former Soviet reach and strength.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:47 am to Powerman
Any new military installments would have to be approved by NATO. Essentially, if we felt the need to build up a significant defense posture in the Northern Atlantic against Putin - we'd have to go begging NATO for permission to defend ourselves. No thanks.
But as several posters have mentioned... that's not the only reason to own Greenland.
But as several posters have mentioned... that's not the only reason to own Greenland.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:48 am to Powerman
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We could do almost anything we want there
I did not say we couldn't.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:48 am to Kattail
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Take a look at a map for one thing. If we don’t get it Russia and/or China will.
And you guys act like the world just discovered Greenland. Like we need to hurry and plant our flag on this new land. shite has been there forever; no one gives a shite.
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