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re: Greenland? Really?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:13 am to soonerinlOUisiana
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:13 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Didn’t need to read past this to know that you’re full of shiit.
So what makes me full of shite exactly? I just want to see our money spent wisely.
Trump has done a good job to this point, and I don't want an insanely expensive purchase to change that.
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:14 am to Powerman
We could do that and more. Without NATO approval and with complete control over sovereign air and sea. And with an economic offset in the form of natural resources that pay for it all.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:16 am to Techdave
You’re like the Epstein bros who preface their posts with “I voted for Trump three times, but …..” Go pound sand, Greenland bro.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:20 am to Techdave
Where were all you "We must have Greenland" people a few years ago?
It's because the orange turd now wants it.
It's because the orange turd now wants it.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:28 am to Techdave
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something to reduce mortgage rates so I can buy a new house at reasonable monthly note?
Really?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:29 am to L1C4
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Where were all you "We must have Greenland" people a few years ago?
It's because the orange turd now wants it.
Well...yeah.
Obvious.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:29 am to Vacherie Saint
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And with an economic offset in the form of natural resources that pay for it all.
I'm with you generally, but are you sure about that last part?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:51 am to FLTech
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Yea but when you take away all of the fraud waste and abuse discovered by DOGE we have plenty of money now to bring down the deficit (which he is already doing) and purchase Greenland while having shite tons of money left over to do other things
Dude.
1. Even using Elon Musk's own numbers instead of the significantly smaller numbers that independent analysis have returned, DOGE found about $160 billion that could be cut. That's the highest estimate I could find and it includes laying off federal employees, the whole nine.
2. The interest on the deficit costs roughly $80 Billion A MONTH. So DOGE's savings (even assuming the highest estimate possible) would pay for two month's worth of INTEREST on the deficit ad not move the needle on the principle at all.
3. Yes, the deficit decreased from 2024 to 2025. By roughly $40 Billion. That's about 2.3%. Before you say something like, "Every little bit helps," or "He's just getting started," or "At least it didn't go up," take a look at the quoted data below. Sorry it didn't copy and past cleanly but I trust that you can see what the three columns are.
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U.S. Federal Budget Deficit / Surplus with Percent Change (1970–2025)
Fiscal Year Deficit/Surplus ($B) % Change from Prior Year
1970 -2.8 —
1971 -23.0 +721%
1972 -23.2 +0.9%
1973 -14.3 -38.2%
1974 -3.5 -75.5%
1975 -43.6 +1,147%
1976 -65.6 +50.5%
1977 -45.0 -31.4%
1978 -48.8 +8.4%
1979 -27.3 -44.0%
1980 -58.9 +115.9%
1981 -57.9 -1.7%
1982 -110.7 +91.1%
1983 -195.4 +76.5%
1984 -178.2 -8.8%
1985 -203.2 +14.0%
1986 -221.1 +8.8%
1987 -148.4 -32.9%
1988 -154.3 +4.0%
1989 -153.3 -0.6%
1990 -220.5 +43.9%
1991 -269.5 +22.2%
1992 -290.3 +7.8%
1993 -254.6 -12.3%
1994 -203.2 -20.2%
1995 -163.9 -19.3%
1996 -107.4 -34.5%
1997 -21.9 -79.6%
1998 +69.3 Sign flip: surplus
1999 +125.6 +81.3%
2000 +236.2 +88.0%
2001 +128.2 -45.7%
2002 -157.4 Sign flip: deficit
2003 -377.3 +139.7%
2004 -412.5 +9.3%
2005 -317.9 -22.9%
2006 -248.1 -22.0%
2007 -160.6 -35.2%
2008 -458.5 +185.4%
2009 -1,412.0 +208.2%
2010 -1,294.2 -8.4%
2011 -1,299.6 +0.4%
2012 -1,087.0 -16.3%
2013 -679.1 -37.5%
2014 -484.4 -28.6%
2015 -438.8 -9.4%
2016 -586.6 +33.7%
2017 -665.5 +13.4%
2018 -779.4 +17.1%
2019 -984.0 +26.3%
2020 -3,132.6 +218.5%
2021 -2,775.8 -11.4%
2022 -1,376.1 -50.4%
2023 -1,694.3 +23.1%
2024 -1,816.8 +7.2%
2025 -1,775.4 -2.3%
Do you see how much the deficit changes? It can fluctuate hugely based on tax revenues, economic cycles, wars or other extraordinary events like COVID, defense buildups, entitlements increasing...all kinds of things.
You may notice that it went up every year in Trump's first term after having gone down every year for the 4 years prior. I'm not saying that's dispositive of anything, only that there are so many factors that go into it you'd have to really analyze each year carefully to figure out why it went up or down.
What for sure looking at that data is that the amount that it went down last year is negligible.
And that is why THIS:
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we have plenty of money now to bring down the deficit (which he is already doing) and purchase Greenland while having shite tons of money left over to do other things
Is competely divorced from reality.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:53 am to Techdave
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I'm as big of a Trump supporter as anyone, but
There it is
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:09 am to Techdave
quote:no youre not
I'm as big of a Trump supporter as anyone
quote:
but do we really need Greenland?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:10 am to deltaland
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There it is
There what is? Your lack of ability to question things?
Even some of Trumps most powerful allies question him every now and then. They guy is awesome and has done a great job. But I question the ROI of buying Greenland.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:11 am to Techdave
Watched his speech today
That guy used to call another guy "Sleepy"??
That guy used to call another guy "Sleepy"??
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:11 am to John somers
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no youre not
Do you dudes follow everything he tells you?
I'm he's a great president and I'll vote for him a million more times I could. But I won't hesitate to question shite that doesn't add up financially.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:15 am to John somers
I think we need Greenland,I just don’t think Trump should be threatening to take it by force.
Likely he would have better success by trying to work a deal with the citizens of Greenland.
We could do a lot more for them than Denmark has ever done.
Likely he would have better success by trying to work a deal with the citizens of Greenland.
We could do a lot more for them than Denmark has ever done.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:17 am to wackatimesthree
That depends on the military ambitions for Greenland, and the resources there are indeed difficult to tap. But there's no question that ownership vs military expansion under the current treaty is much more favorable for the US. This isn't our first attempt at purchasing Greenland since the treaty.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:18 am to Penrod
We have access to Greenland now, stupid.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:22 am to Vacherie Saint
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And with an economic offset in the form of natural resources that pay for it all.
We can extract their resources now if we want...
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:28 am to Techdave
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I'm as big of a Trump supporter as anyone
and again, any time someone proclaims this or has to qualify their statement with this, I immediately know they are full of shite.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:35 am to Techdave
If you can't see why Greenland is going to be viral in coming decades I don't know what to do with you. Strategically it's incredibly vital to controlling the Arctic, would be an ideal location for missile defense as well. It's got massive natural resources critical for security, such as rare earth minerals, gold, as well as at least 17 billion of barrels of oil. Denmark is not capable of either defending it from the Russians or accessing the wealth
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:36 am to slidingstop
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and again, any time someone proclaims this or has to qualify their statement with this, I immediately know they are full of shite.
Full of shite about what exactly? I think Trump is a great president, and done a hell of a job.
I have questions about the amount of money we are about to spend when we have a stupid high deficit already.
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