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Posted on 9/2/21 at 8:43 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 8:43 am to
Yeah. That’s one story.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14437 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 8:48 am to
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Not the type of immigrants I was referencing.


Biden is bussing border crossers to all states.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40683 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:13 am to
I read in passing FL changed their death reporting which created an artificial low. This may be what OP just posted.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55453 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:27 am to
Nope. CBS ran a segment this morning on how Florida is killing its citizens and how that Nazi R Gov. is going to kill us all with his policies.

The left does NOT want Covid to go away.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:27 am to
How did FL change the death reporting?
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13898 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:33 am to
Miami Herald


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Change in COVID death count makes Florida look better. Lack of transparency makes it look worse | Editorial


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In numbers, here’s an example of what the change means, according to the Herald story. Under the old system of record-keeping, Florida death data on Monday would have shown an average of 262 daily deaths reported to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention over the previous week. Under the new methodology, the state shows 46 “new deaths” per day in the previous seven days.

Where did all the other deaths go? They were added to totals in previous weeks because they actually occurred back then. That has the effect of pushing the bigger numbers into the rear-view mirror, over and over.


Remember peasants, only the CDC can fake the numbers.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1852 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:44 am to
From the article posted by Statestreet: This is some 1984 levels of f*cking truth meaning lies, peace meaning war craziness. Florida is actually reporting daily numbers instead of having Monday or Tuesday dumps that can skew the graphs. For instance, Alabama just this week released a dump of 11,000+ new cases because their reporting in previous weeks was "flawed". The graph for Alabama is pretty flat of the last 30 days, but with this "correction" the end of the graph has a nice upswing now.
Florida is being run through the mud for being MORE accurate in this instance.

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Instead of counting each COVID death on the date it was recorded, as many states do for their daily COVID stats, the Florida Department of Health switched to a different methodology, counting each death on the date it actually occurred.

There is often a significant lag — days or weeks — between the day a person succumbs to COVID and the day the death is officially recorded as a COVID death. Charting the deaths under the new methodology can make it look as though deaths are declining even when that’s not true.


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It shouldn’t be left to the public or scientists to guess what the real numbers are


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here’s an example of what the change means, according to the Herald story. Under the old system of record-keeping, Florida death data on Monday would have shown an average of 262 daily deaths reported to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention over the previous week. Under the new methodology, the state shows 46 “new deaths” per day in the previous seven days.


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But it isn’t even the re-calibrating of the numbers that’s the biggest problem here. It’s the lack of transparency.

Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1613 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:58 am to
This shouldnt do anything but create a short-term artificial decline. Once the time window (e.g. 2 weeks) for a coroner report to come out for a specific death, the actual curve will be far more accurate than what they have been reporting, IMO at least.

What they're telling us right now, is that the death curve (what everyone is paying attention to) is several days to a few weeks behind the actual deaths, depending on the coroner reporting time.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:03 am to
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I read in passing FL changed their death reporting which created an artificial low.


Probably because the CDC/BidenAdmin/Media changed THEIR definition of death by Covid to attain artificial highs.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37240 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:16 am to
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This shouldnt do anything but create a short-term artificial decline. Once the time window (e.g. 2 weeks) for a coroner report to come out for a specific death, the actual curve will be far more accurate than what they have been reporting, IMO at least.

What they're telling us right now, is that the death curve (what everyone is paying attention to) is several days to a few weeks behind the actual deaths, depending on the coroner reporting time.
The problem comes up when someone tries to compare 7 day averages to other states. The 7 day average is useless unless you look at where it was about 2 weeks ago. One other state, Alabama or Mississippi has a similar delay, but they were consistent from the beginning. Florida also fibs with its numbers by only counting permanent residents using a very strict definition in its death counts.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
43495 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:17 am to
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Which is quite baffling to me. It’s basically the closest thing we have to an honest to god early treatment that works.


I don’t find it to be baffling at all.

ANY and ALL ambulatory means have been shite on. Get your jab, or go on a vent...those seem to be your options according to the WHO, CDC, NIH, FDA, State Department of Health etc.

Meanwhile, political power grabs have been the norm. JBE may as well be King Edwards.

The strange thing is that even noting that these things occurred concurrently makes one a “conspiracy theorist.” I look at it as a simple observation.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The medical bureaucracy has lost all credibility due to how they have responded to Covid.

As for political government overreach...
tyrants are going to implement tyranny.

The two may or may not be related, but I am of the belief that (even by happenstance) that they are now tied together. As such, the response and message is no longer baffling imho.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
43495 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:19 am to
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Florida also fibs with its numbers by only counting permanent residents using a very strict definition in its death counts.


The media will report what looks the worst.

They (the Democrat’s) fear DeSantis.

What the promote is fear based propaganda.

Goebbel’s would be proud of what your ilk has accomplished.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37729 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:26 am to
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The Regeneron manufacturer said 50% of all vials are going to TX, FL, AL, MS.


I saw my doctor with a back issue the other day and we were talking about this very thing. He said if I ever tested positive or was exposed to a known positive, call him and he will get me in their place the same day.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37240 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:29 am to
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The media will report what looks the worst.

They (the Democrat’s) fear DeSantis.

What the promote is fear based propaganda.

Goebbel’s would be proud of what your ilk has accomplished.

None of what you just said makes any sense.

There just needs to be some national standardization of reporting health statistics. After meeting that if states want to report data differently there wouldn't be an issue.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
43495 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:31 am to
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None of what you just said makes any sense.

There just needs to be some national standardization of reporting health statistics. After meeting that if states want to report data differently there wouldn't be an issue.



None of what you said matters.

The media controls the narrative and ONLY a negative image will be promoted.

This isn’t about actual data. You know this.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:40 am to
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I don’t care if people try it but do it with shite we know that works, too.

Can you define the scenario for those using MAB's regarding immunity after the infection and their use.

Is immunity as strong and lasting as a natural course of infection only?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40683 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 11:46 am to
Y'all get so upset on this website
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 11:46 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37240 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:21 am to
August 22nd 7 day moving average for deaths in Florida is now 266. Florida is roughly 2 weeks behind in data.

worldometers

And the new 7 day average for 9/2 is no longer 20 (when this thread was made), it is now 126.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 8:24 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48033 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:23 am to
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Has Florida found the key to beating Covid-19?


Why, yes, we have.

Posted by Son of Dad
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:27 am to
I thought this was going to be about bath salts.
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