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re: Has Spicer claiming Hitler never used chemical weapons been discussed?

Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Gas is a weapon especially when you use it to kill someone...or 10 million


So Texas used chemical weapons on 20 prisoners last year.

Never knew.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:03 pm to
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That's the word I was looking for. Maybe a last solution or something else. Permanent solution? Words fail me.



Yeah board went back and fourth on this I think we can consider this thread the final one
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:03 pm to
I still can't stop cracking up at this shite

Hitler never used chemical weapons



On his own people



Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24271 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:04 pm to
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don't know. I'm not so good with semantics


You're not good with much.

When have gas chambers ever been Considered chemical weapons before there was an opportunity to hang a gotcha on this administration ? (Hint: never)
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:06 pm to
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When have gas chambers ever been Considered chemical weapons before there was an opportunity to hang a gotcha on this administration ? (Hint: never)
When else were they used as wartime implements, you fricking mouth-breather?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:09 pm to
Yes. Hydrogen cyanide is lethal and Texas used it.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24271 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:13 pm to
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When else were they used as wartime implements, you fricking mouth-breather?


LINK

And look Wikipedia agrees with spicer.

quote:

During the Holocaust, a genocide perpetrated by Nazi Germany, millions of Jews and other victims were gassed with carbon monoxide and hydrogen cyanide (including Zyklon B).[33][34] This remains the deadliest use of poison gas in history.[33] Nevertheless, the Nazis did not extensively use chemical weapons in combat,[33][34] at least not against the Western Allies,[35] despite maintaining an active chemical weapons program in which the Nazis used concentration camp prisoners as forced labor to secretly manufacture tabun, a nerve gas, and experimented upon concentration camp victims to test the effects of the gas.[33] Otto Ambros of IG Farben was a chief chemical-weapons expert for the Nazis.[33][36] The Nazis' decision to avoid the use of chemical weapons on the battlefield has been variously attributed to a lack of technical ability in the German chemical weapons program and fears that the Allies would retaliate with their own chemical weapons.[35] It also has been speculated to have arisen from the personal experiences of Adolf Hitler as a soldier in the Kaiser's army during World War I, where he was gassed by British troops in 1918.[37] After the Battle of Stalingrad, Joseph Goebbels, Robert Ley, and Martin Bormann urged Hitler to approve the use of tabun and other chemical weapons to slow the Soviet advance. At a May 1943 meeting in the Wolf's Lair, however, Hitler was told by Ambros that Germany had 45,000 tons of chemical gas stockpiled, but that the Allies likely had far more. Hitler responded by suddenly leaving the room and ordering production of tabun and sarin to be doubled, but "fearing some rogue officer would use them and spark Allied retaliation, he ordered that no chemical weapons be transported to the Russian front."[33] After the Allied invasion of Italy, the Germans rapidly moved to remove or destroy both German and Italian chemical-weapon stockpiles, "for the same reason that Hitler had ordered them pulled from the Russian front—they feared that local commanders would use them and trigger Allied chemical retaliation."[33]
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24271 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:16 pm to
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Yes. Hydrogen cyanide is lethal and Texas used it.


Texas is using chemical weapons!?! Get the tomahawks fired up!
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:20 pm to
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Nevertheless, the Nazis did not extensively use chemical weapons in combat,[33][34] at least not against the Western Allies,[35] despite maintaining an active chemical weapons program in which the Nazis used concentration camp prisoners as forced labor to secretly manufacture tabun, a nerve gas, and experimented upon concentration camp victims to test the effects of the gas.


Quite a few qualifications.

But back to your original point about executions. How about a counterpoint.

If you're a junkie and you contract AIDS from shooting heroin all day, and you knowingly and purposefully bang every skank in a meth-addicted drug den and infect some with your AIDS, would you be charged with biological warfare?

Now if you figured out a way to weaponize your AIDS and use it to execute entire populations of prisoners, detainees, and captives of war, would it not qualify as biological warfare?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24271 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:36 pm to
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Now if you figured out a way to weaponize your AIDS and use it to execute entire populations of prisoners, detainees, and captives of war, would it not qualify as biological warfare?



You're missing the point (not surprised). Even if you can find like elements that makes it possible to make a technical argument that two things are equivalent, we are talking about a press statement using common vernacular and spicers use of common vernacular to describe Germany's restraint in using chemical weapons in WWII is accurate.

I'll admit. Wading into this when dealing with the opposition party and enemy of the state (the press) is tactically retarded and he should be fired for giving those cockroaches anything to work with.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:45 pm to
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You're missing the point (not surprised). Even if you can find like elements that makes it possible to make a technical argument that two things are equivalent, we are talking about a press statement using common vernacular and spicers use of common vernacular to describe Germany's restraint in using chemical weapons in WWII is accurate.

I'll admit. Wading into this when dealing with the opposition party and enemy of the state (the press) is tactically retarded and he should be fired for giving those cockroaches anything to work with.
GTFO. Guys like you lose so many arguments because you think there's some nobility in defending the indefensible. Spicer made an arse of himself in about ten ways today. End of story.

There isn't. Being plucky for the sake of nothing stops being cute around the time you're rounding adulthood.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 11:46 pm to
Yes. Texas uses A chemical weapon to execute convicted murderers

Hitler used a shite ton of it to exterminate Jews


what is it with the Paul crowd and Jews?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8394 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:39 am to
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Permanent solution?


Nope, definitely a gas at room temperature. And they tested this in rooms full of observers, thousands of times in fact. Bastards in the room never turned in a proper evaluation of the smell.
Posted by Wes B
WESton-Broom
Member since Jun 2012
356 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 4:24 am to
Spicer is such the perfect frontman for what this administration is
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20813 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 5:20 am to
That's because he didn't.

This is so much of a stretch by you it isn't funny.

You're usually smarter than this.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 5:28 am to
Yes. And they sent the Jews, their own people, to a holding center where they were offered refreshments beforehand. At least Asaad did not sink as low as Hitler, according to Spicer. And the Trumpkins defend his statements.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 5:32 am
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