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Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:48 pm to CDawson
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The USA does not have the best healthcare plan in the world. If you look at numbers we're somewhere between 20th and 50th, depending on the measure. Except cost. There we're #1.
And what do those 19-49 other countries spend on their defense and giving aid to the globalist leeches?
Everything can't be cheap or free in the US simply bc of capitalism and the support we give everyone else.
If we weren't spending so much money on the rest of the world, then sure, healthcare would be cheap.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:49 pm to CDawson
I live close to the Houston medical center. Almost everyday I meet someone from a foreign country that is here to receive healthcare. Why would these people be paying to come here, to stay for extended periods, and to receive healthcare if in their home countries they have free healthcare?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:50 pm to jnethe1
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How am I overselling it?
We don't have an insurance problem in this country. Insurance is the symptom.
Insurance is nothing more than a pass through. They transfer money from you to the Healthcare provider (at a risk of an annual loss) for the goal of a 3% return on the transaction.
Health insurance doesn't suck because the insurance companies are attempting a 3% profit.
Health insurance sucks because of the cost of healthcare.
Opening up borders may give you more coverage options (think of the liberty mutual commercial... pay only for what you need. You may find a plan that better suits your personal situation across state borders. It may cost less, but you may be buying less coverage. It may cost the same, but the coverage is more for what you use and not for what you don't use).
More coverage options is a great thing. But we can solve this same problem by removing government mandated health care plans and opening insurance companies to more ala carte plans.
Think simpler.
Regardless... changing health insurance does not solve the health care cost dilemna. As we agreed, the costs are always passed back through the premiums.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:55 pm to meansonny
There are too many non-transparent costs in the healthcare industry. And too many unnecessary layers of markups and profits. That seems to be especially true with prescription drugs.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:27 pm to meansonny
Well yeah, I agree with that. Healthcare costs are definitely out of hand. I do not want government intervention though.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:41 pm to CDawson
In terms of life expectancy the United States is 43th in the world.
In terms of infant mortality the USA is 55th in the world at 5.80 per 1,000 births.
(170th where the best in the world is #225, Monaco at just 1.80.)
In terms of infant mortality the USA is 55th in the world at 5.80 per 1,000 births.
(170th where the best in the world is #225, Monaco at just 1.80.)
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:52 pm to Pbhog
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Pbhog
Stop being a loser , pay for your own healthcare.
Your dad should have taught you about personal responsibility .
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:55 pm to meansonny
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Health insurance sucks because of the cost of healthcare.
You nailed it !
Insurance companies get all of the blame , but healthcare costs by far are the problem.
The simpletons only complain about Insurance companies.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:58 pm to Pbhog
quote:get a damn job, go to work every damn day and buy insurance and pay the premium yourself instead of expecting decent people to do it....eat shite
With republicans wanting to totally get rid of the Aca, what is their replacement plan?
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Pbhog
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:14 pm to Pbhog
Hopefully the plan is to get back to pre obama shite stain days when everything was MUCH better and less expensive WITH better coverage and people who wanted health insurance would get it.
Those that were bums were still getting FREE healthcare just as they are now except it’s costing those of us who actually work and pay taxes even more to support those sorry, useless bums and “democrats”.
Those that were bums were still getting FREE healthcare just as they are now except it’s costing those of us who actually work and pay taxes even more to support those sorry, useless bums and “democrats”.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:19 pm to Pbhog
I do pull for Arkansas except when y’all play LSU.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:37 pm to VOR
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There are too many non-transparent costs in the healthcare industry. And too many unnecessary layers of markups and profits. That seems to be especially true with prescription drugs.
Neither party will honestly address these because they are bought and paid for. Of course, the socialist side shoved ACA through anyway.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:51 pm to Pbhog
this is a standard lib gotcha. what they don't realize is that there have been several republican "plans" floating around since before the aca talk started up
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:07 pm to Pbhog
The healthcare system requires a total overhaul, but not in the way liberals want it. Insurance should be catastrophic only, and general issues and dr appts should be out of pocket. This would drive down costs by increasing transparency and competition. You would save money right off the bat.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:08 pm to meansonny
quote:not necessarily. plenty of segments have economical options for their products/services
The same health costs always get passed on to the consumer
quote:absolutely untrue
Nothing is gained by this perception of competition
quote:not necessarily true. depends on the "system"
You virtually get the same concept with an Ala carte health insurance option
quote:no one is calling it a "magic fix." however, it is possible that it would create more affordable tiers for consumers
Eliminating state barriers on insurance isnt some magic fix to make the cost of health care (and consequently the cost of insurance ) lower
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:09 pm to BigAppleBucky
quote:you post this quote after someone posted a link proving your quote to be wrong? yes, the republicans have had alternatives. just because the current batch of rino's are spineless doesn't mean the options aren't out there.
Republican attempts to repeal Obamacare made it clear to everyone that their party didn’t have any better ideas
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:11 pm to BigAppleBucky
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In terms of life expectancy the United States is 43th in the world. In terms of infant mortality the USA is 55th in the world at 5.80 per 1,000 births. (170th where the best in the world is #225, Monaco at just 1.80.)
Is your conclusion that the quality of care is the reason for this?
Is your solution for higher quality of care government run care?
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:12 pm to BigAppleBucky
quote:wrong. cite a list that doesn't come from who and includes people who come to america for procedures because the wait time is too long in their country
The USA does not have the best healthcare plan in the world
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:13 pm to jnethe1
quote:NO, NO, NO. LIB DARLING WHO STATES THAT US HEALTHCARE SUCKS
Almost everyday I meet someone from a foreign country that is here to receive healthcare
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