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re: House GOP selects Jordan as speaker candidate
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:13 pm to davyjones
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:13 pm to davyjones
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the unraveling of the House Republican majority
Everyone should have seen this coming back in January with the original 21 holdouts who kept Kevin McCarthy from quickly securing the speaker's gavel.
The GOP is deeply fractured; it’s become personal for many of them.
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:16 pm to LSU2ALA
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They are not going to reward him and his supporters for this. It’s won’t happen.
Jordan wasn’t behind this. In fact he stood up (in hindsight OL this was savvy) and defended McCarthy vs. Gaetz. Then he backed Scalise when he won the straw poll.
I’m not saying Jordan will get the votes, but it’s wrong to pretend he was a part of the Gaetz group that started this.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:21 pm to moneyg
I'm curious to see what concessions will be taken by Jordan for this. It seemed like he didn't even want the job at first. This is actually really unfortunate timing because the far right actually had great opportunity to ensure single issue voting, term limits voting, border security voting, J6 videos etc. Now that is all washed away. Please tell me he didn't cut a deal.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:23 pm to Richleau
Jordan doesn't have the votes which everyone knew yesterday coming into today. McCarthy/Graves have been pimping McHenry from day 1 and now they are going to push him forward once Jordan drops out on Monday.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:25 pm to David_DJS
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What do you think will happen?
A compromise candidate of some sort would be my guess. McHenry, Emerett, Herb, Cole, etc.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:25 pm to MrLSU
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McCarthy/Graves McHenry
Clown show incoming
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:26 pm to LSU2ALA
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McHenry
He will not have the votes. McCarthy & crew have now burned all of the bridges so no one even closely associated with him has a chance in hell.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:28 pm to moneyg
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Jordan wasn’t behind this. In fact he stood up (in hindsight OL this was savvy) and defended McCarthy vs. Gaetz. Then he backed Scalise when he won the straw poll. I’m not saying Jordan will get the votes, but it’s wrong to pretend he was a part of the Gaetz group that started this.
I don’t think he’s behind the Gaetz thing, but there is a lot of reporting that he did not quickly support Scaliese in the immediate aftermath of losing the vote. There is also reporting that his supporters are threatening to primary moderates who do not support him. If true, and who knows in this case, that is turning people off.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:30 pm to MrLSU
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He will not have the votes. McCarthy & crew have now burned all of the bridges so no one even closely associated with him has a chance in hell.
Quite possible you are correct. I’m just naming a few names I’ve seen. It will probably be someone out of left field that no one is suspecting most likely.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:41 pm to LSU2ALA
Am I the only one that is not concerned about this charade. I'm waiting to see who gets the democrats to vote for them so he can be primaried
It is actual disgusting to learn as fact how bad and self serving our congress is.
At what point does the money stop? Thought that already happened
It is actual disgusting to learn as fact how bad and self serving our congress is.
At what point does the money stop? Thought that already happened
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:47 pm to MrLSU
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Jordan doesn't have the votes which everyone knew yesterday coming into today. McCarthy/Graves have been pimping McHenry from day 1 and now they are going to push him forward once Jordan drops out on Monday.
I could be wrong but I think he’s a non starter.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:47 pm to Indefatigable
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Any downvoters care to explain what changes here? Are you guys that concerned with floor votes that won’t even get taken up by the Senate?
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How so? I see it as literally no change. It’s also no change from McCarthy.
I disagree.
I suspect that Gaetz and his 7 rebels are threatening to allow the Dems to control the speaker position if he doesn’t get what he wants(an end to CR) on budget issues.
I’m with Gaetz
Burn it down if the Republicans continue to deceive us.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 5:48 pm to EKG
Didn’t 11 Republicans go home yesterday for a long weekend? Geez.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 7:42 am to LSU2ALA
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It’s understanding how this works. He can get 90% of those 55 who voted against him the second time and still not be there.
I understand how it works, it's like a junior high popularity contest among egotists. As more momentum starts swinging to "oh, HE'S the cool one" then all the fence-sitters rush to jump on the bandwagon (to say they were earlier in making the "right" choice before others, if for nothing else).
Unless Jordan does something monumentally foolish or suddenly bows out, it's his to lose right now just as it was Scalise's to lose (if he had stayed in the fight).
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It’s won’t happen.
We shall see.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 7:44 am
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:18 am to Indefatigable
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Any downvoters care to explain what changes here?
If he wins and holds the speakership for a while then you take the senate and get a good majority leader and president and good things happen.
As it stands right now, less bad things happen because of less go-along-to-get-along dem-lite leadership.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:23 am to EKG
I want to go ahead and apologize for this wig wearing RINO frick from Alabama as he will sure as shite be causing problems.
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C-Reason
@CreasonJana
BREAKING: Rep. Mike Rogers is openly talking about making a deal with Democrats rather than vote for Jim Jordan.
Alabama … set your representative @RepMikeRogersAL straight or primary him. We are sick of RINOs representing us and only representing their own needs.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:24 am to moneyg
quote:Out of the ashes rises Massie.
Jordan doesn't have the votes which everyone knew yesterday coming into today. McCarthy/Graves have been pimping McHenry from day 1 and now they are going to push him forward once Jordan drops out on Monday.
I could be wrong but I think he’s a non starter.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 8:50 am to moneyg
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It’s not a terrible thing. The pressure will build on them as everyone else suddenly starts looking like the adults in the room.
I’m tired of these ”adults” being in charge. These ”adults” don’t know how to set a budget, these “adults” don’t know how to secure our border, there is a very long list of things these “adults” fail to do.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:56 am to EKG
He would be a massive improvement over RINO McCarthy.
Jordan is a good communicator and doesn't give a damn what the media thinks of him.
Jordan is a good communicator and doesn't give a damn what the media thinks of him.
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