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re: How come you voters never changed the law against felons voting?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:56 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:56 pm to Wtodd
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If the state says 20 yrs is enough then they have
Cool, I don't think it's possible to properly pay the debt to society when you have murdered someone unless you can figure out a way to bring the victim back
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:01 pm to jchamil
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Cool, I don't think it's possible to properly pay the debt to society when you have murdered someone unless you can figure out a way to bring the victim back
Or pay restitution to the family.....and yes many of them have a price for forgiveness.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:02 pm to jchamil
quote:That is a problem with the justice system, then. It’s not a problem with individual liberty.
Some have, some haven't. I don't think a murderer who is released after 20 years has paid a proper debt to society
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:03 pm to Claymation213
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Claymation213
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:05 pm to Claymation213
Like 40% of Louisiana residents are felons
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:07 pm to FooManChoo
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That is a problem with the justice system, then. It’s not a problem with individual liberty.
Why is it not both? Losing individual liberties is part of the punishment doled out by the justice system
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:07 pm to Claymation213
You created an account and waited to be approved just to make this post?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:10 pm to idlewatcher
quote:Why didn't the felons take that into account before committing the felony? Don't project responsibility for their stupid decisions on to me, brother.
I mean, you do think voting is so important, right? Then why haven't you so-called voters done anything against laws that go against felons voting.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:12 pm to LSURussian
quote:LSURussian: Cut it out. How many posts did you have when you had 3 posts?
Claymation213
Member since Oct 2018
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This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:53 pm to jchamil
quote:Temporarily losing individual liberties is part of the punishment.
Why is it not both? Losing individual liberties is part of the punishment doled out by the justice system
Say you were arrested for inciting violence against someone or arrested for "hate speech" and you get a short stint in prison and then come out and the government says you are no longer allowed to use your 1st amendment rights. You can't speak to three or more people at once (a crowd); you can't use internet message boards; and you can't use social media to make public statements any longer. Do you think that's not an infringement on a person's liberties? I think it is. We're essentially doing the same thing with felons for using firearms.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:29 pm to FooManChoo
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Do you think that's not an infringement on a person's liberties? I think it is. We're essentially doing the same thing with felons for using firearms.
Sure, that's an infringement on individual liberties, but I have specifically been talking murder. I have no problem whatsoever infringing on the individual liberties of a convicted murderer
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:31 pm to Claymation213
Because if you commit a fricking felony you don't deserve the right to vote anymore.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:36 pm to Claymation213
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How come you voters never changed the law against felons voting?
In California, once you're off probation/parole, you do get your voting rights back.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:40 pm to jchamil
quote:Why murder and not rape at gun point? Why not armed robbery or attempted murder ( but not successful murder)? What’s your standard and why should that standard remove the rights of an otherwise free person? Why not just support capital punishment or life in prison for all murderers?
Sure, that's an infringement on individual liberties, but I have specifically been talking murder. I have no problem whatsoever infringing on the individual liberties of a convicted murderer
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:46 pm to FooManChoo
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Why murder and not rape at gun point?
Sure, no problem with a rapist never owning a gun upon release from prison
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Why not armed robbery or attempted murder ( but not successful murder)?
Again, I wouldn't care if these people couldn't own a gun upon release. I'm not sure what your parenthetical means.
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What’s your standard and why should that standard remove the rights of an otherwise free person?
I don't care if violent people have their rights to own a gun stripped away upon release. I'd have to think some on what the exact standard would be
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Why not just support capital punishment or life in prison for all murderers?
That would never happen, so in the alternative if you want to own a gun, don't commit violent felonies
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