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re: How long before Trump labels a journalist a traitor
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to Seldom Seen
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to Seldom Seen
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Most of them are traitors.
By most do you mean more than 50%? 60%?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to NIH
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Tboy, why do I get the feeling that your handle is ironic considering your a femme?
Taking your cues from Trump, your strategy is to insult me to try to silence me. And you obviously aren't very good at it. Perhaps you should think of some better insults and spray them all over the bed and see what effect they have.
What this clearly illustrates is that the spewing of insults is occupying a rather prominent place in right wing governing philosophy right now. That is what this topic is about. Trump recognizes that some reporters don't agree with him, so he insults them. That is his method. The question is, "how long until he starts calling then traitors?" That's a legitimate question. It also acknowledges that Trump's method is to insult, just like you. As any thinking person may ultimately conclude, insults are not a basis of governance. It won't work.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to ThuperThumpin
So dozens of journalists, the DNC and every progressive in America spend months inferring that Trump is a traitor, and we are supposed to worry about your premise that Trump may some day label somebody a traitor?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to ThuperThumpin
It would only be a problem if the journalist didn't do anything that could be reasonably construed as treacherous.
Will Trump falsely accuse a journalist of treachery? Maybe. He's hot headed and impetuous. I hope not.
Will Trump falsely accuse a journalist of treachery? Maybe. He's hot headed and impetuous. I hope not.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:53 am to Seldom Seen
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Most of them are traitors.
Being called a traitor by a politician is the sign you are a good journalist. That's why Justice Potter Stewart deemed the press as the Fourth Estate.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:56 am to ThuperThumpin
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I think it will happen in the first 6 months and it will likely be someone high profile.
He waited six months to call the same journalists who are already calling him a traitor and a Putin puppet traitors themselves?
That actually seems like self control to me. It's hard to not sympathize with the bullshite he is having to shift through today. I'd rather he not though
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:58 am to SCLibertarian
Whoa, slow down hoss. Words have meaning. While there is often a thin line between watch dog, holding accountable, or revealing truths, versus unnecessarily demeaning the country and its leaders, I would be more confortable with the press pressing if they showed a modicum of judicious restraint and unbiased integrity.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:59 am to TBoy
Perhaps he should seek out your sage advice?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:59 am to Lsupimp
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we are supposed to worry about your premise that Trump may some day label somebody a traitor?
I never suggested you worry about anything. I posed a question for my own interest. He may accuse a journalist of treason and be absolutely right, or it may never happen.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:02 am to ThuperThumpin
Good luck with the whole "Literally Hitler" narrative. Hitler called people "traitor" you know.

Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:05 am to Lsupimp
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So dozens of journalists, the DNC and every progressive in America spend months inferring that Trump is a traitor, and we are supposed to worry about your premise that Trump may some day label somebody a traitor?
This seems to make up a big part of the media playbook this season. Wring their little hands frsntically that Trump might potentially do something that the Demonrats have been doing openly all along.
Its fun to watch the utter collapse of the cronycapitalist media leviathan but I don't know what arises to take its place. No matter how well earned the public disdain for the fourth estate this really is a dire moment for civilization.
But again, its damn fine entertainment.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:05 am to Jimbeaux
Woodward and Bernstein, Laura Poitras, Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill are those I have in mind. I don't watch the mainstream media because it isn't news. It's entertainment devoid of substantive debate or information.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:09 am to ThuperThumpin
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He is the president
So in your mind, presidential decorum is more important than the constitutionally protected press?
Take a history lesson. Trump is not the first president to be at odds with the media.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:09 am to SCLibertarian
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Bernstein
It's not 1973 anymore, mate. This is the jackass that spent fifteen minutes melting down on CNN 36 hours ago about Trump being pissed on by Russian hookers. I turned the channel after I heard him say the word "investigation" for about the tenth time.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:13 am to Lsupimp
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Good luck with the whole "Literally Hitler" narrative. Hitler called people "traitor" you know.
What are you talking about? I never suggested a "literally hitler narrative" Those that think Trump is comparable to Hitler have not studied either man.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:15 am to Lsupimp
Carl Bernstein - The Art Garfunkel of Watergate
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:18 am to Vacherie Saint
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So in your mind, presidential decorum is more important than the constitutionally protected press?
No and my response on saying he may got too far if labeled a journalist a traitor was not well thought out. Maybe one would deserve to called out and maybe not but I think it will be a pivotal moment regardless.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:21 am to ThuperThumpin
Got it. So you have no point and your thread is a useless hypothetical. I'll stop posting in it and allow it to slowly capsize. Thanks.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:22 am to TBoy
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Taking your cues from Trump, your strategy is to insult me to try to silence me. And you obviously aren't very good at it. Perhaps you should
Hypocrite much?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:31 am to TBoy
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Trump recognizes that some reporters report blatant fabrications about Trump in efforts to diminish him, so he insults them.
FIFY
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