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re: I figured out why Democrats are pushing this vaccine so damn hard. They need a scapegoat.

Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:04 am to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33864 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:07 am to
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However, to say the vaccines are ineffective is just dumb. What I'm hearing from doctors in my area (Lafayette) is that 99% of the people in the hospital now are not vaccinated

Maybe you should have read the WSJ before posting
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Delta prevalence doesn’t go hand in hand with higher hospitalization rates; these numbers appear inversely correlated—that is, places that had higher percentages of the Delta variant had lower ratios of hospitalized people

or any media about the effectiveness
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countries are looking to mix and match vaccines amid concerns that vaccines are ineffective against more infectious variants of the coronavirus.

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infection rates are rising in some countries among vaccinated individuals, there hasn't been an increase in hospitalizations or deaths.

LINK
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:07 am to
So how is a vaccine effective when you can still contract and spread the virus. My company covid 19 response team is pushing this vaccine harrddd and the only message is to get informed and get the vaccine because it reduces the severity of the virus. Basically asking us to please just do the thing.
Posted by Buddy Red
Maringouin, LA
Member since Aug 2007
282 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:09 am to
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When the GOVERNMENT is pushing this hard for you to put something in your body, you better be a little cautious.


This is the wisest thing yet said in this thread.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:09 am to
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Problem is that the vaccine doesn’t appear to be effective and, in a number of cases, appears to be about as dangerous as the virus.


God fricking damn it you’re an imbecile.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4651 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:23 am to
If they try to use the fear pill again, they will have to convince the 50% of the country, that the new strain is dangerous.

That percent of the country doesn't trust the vaccine, the media, or the Fed Gov't.

If they threaten shutdowns again, half the country aint listening.

If this is their masterplan, it aint going to work. Their credibility is shot. What are they going to do, roll out Fauci again?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35825 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:24 am to
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Problem is that the vaccine doesn’t appear to be effective


You can't be serious with this shite



Didn’t they cancel the Yanks/Sox because 6 vaxed players tested positive?

Yeah, vaccine works like a charm.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35825 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:26 am to
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However, to say the vaccines are ineffective is just dumb. What I'm hearing from doctors in my area (Lafayette) is that 99% of the people in the hospital now are not vaccinated


Doc in Bham said same exact thing, verbatim.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
164375 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:29 am to
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I personally know more people dead from the vaccine than from the virus.

frick your old arse.
No this isn't fringey hyperbole not at all. Talk like an adult with facts and sound theories.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:33 am to
Short form-

I have little trust for the government or the medical establishment at this moment given how they have played fast and loose with this the last 18+ months.

Even if they did give me numbers, I would be skeptical simply because they have gotten caught so many times skewing totals and changing standards to get the results they want.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13246 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:35 am to
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It’s dumb, if they are vaccinated, no worries, right???


One would think. But, one has to think. The sheeple don't do that very well.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:52 am to
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A big block of the unvaccinated are people of color who correctly don’t trust the government. Setting them up in the way you’re describing would be problematic for the current Dem establishment.



Unvaccinated POC will be largely ignored when the finger pointing starts back up.
It will be referred to as unvaccinated Trump supporters in a successful effort to paint it as "whitey" with a built in "out" if questioned about it further either way.
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:14 pm to
Cycle threshold is 28 for the vaccinated. So no, they aren't showing up as positive, by design.

Cycle threshold for everyone else has always been 40+.
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30258 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:17 pm to
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Maybe you should have read the WSJ before posting


No just no...hell no....I'm not taking anything from mainstream media on COVID....however, that article does seem to support my point.

However, like I said I don't believe shite that I read in the paper....I believe the word of doctors that are friends that I trust.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18420 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:23 pm to
Maybe.

Our establishment has think tanks. It's hard to accurately guess what a group of very smart people are plotting, when they get together and bounce ideas off each other, working to come up with whatever outcome they are tasked with.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8577 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Didn’t they cancel the Yanks/Sox because 6 vaxed players tested positive?



All of the players that tested positive for Covid on NC State's team were all vaccinated. Possibly cost them a NCAA World Series.
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:31 pm to
#metoo, this vax is a killer!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:31 pm to
Hence why that situation was so fricky.

They only tested the unvacc’ed players to that point then suddenly, during the semifinals, tested some of the vacc’ed players and they came up positive. End of season.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:38 pm to
I don't know a single healthy person that died from the virus. Everyone that died was very old, very obese, or generally had an issue like compromised system due to cancer, lung, or heart issues.

Literally every single person otherwise was barely impacted. Nobody even missed a day of work, granted they weren't allowed in the office.

My wife is a teacher. Not one teacher or student ever got so sick they had to go to hospital.

My kids go to different schools. We had a minimum of 6 total quarantines due to exposure, but nobody in these schools died or was even sick enough for hospital.

We've been living a normal life since April of 2020, which includes many visits to theme parks, which were always crowded, to beaches, campouts with scouts, restaurants, bars, planes, trains, automobiles, in person school... the works. How are people catching it? Why are so many NOT just dropping dead?

The news will run fear porn about a 1 year old that dies, but you won't find out they had leukemia unless you read the obituary and notice they ask for donations.

They'll talk about a 31 year old man that died, but never the fact he was 300+ pounds and on oxygen BEFORE the virus.

Who the crap are these hundreds of thousands of people?
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1611 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:58 pm to
How about spending some time on finding out who has already gotten covid and now have the T cells and antibodies? How about spending some time and money on looking into Hydroxychloraquine and Ivermectin and Remdesivir and other FDA approved medicines vs a non FDA approved experimental drug? Im open to the vaccine but IM not dumb enough to believe its the only solution. I know its the 1 that will make big pharma a gazzillion dollars I do know that.

Once Fauci admitted that almost half of his own staff was refusing to get the vaccine, I was and still am very reluctant. How can this bureaucrat run around calling everyone stupid when he cant convince his own team?
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