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re: I thought Ukraine was winning?
Posted on 11/28/24 at 11:04 pm to John Barron
Posted on 11/28/24 at 11:04 pm to John Barron
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Legit amateur hour
Yes you are, you believe Zelenskyy when you want to.
Why is he telling the truth now? He's also saying that Ukraine is killing way more Russians than Russia is killing Ukrainians?
Is that legit?
You aren't being truthful, you are still claiming the US general was stating a current fact.
There are many report that are not 10:1
https://thedefensepost.com/2024/10/02/ukraine-rate-russia-artillery/
Even your vaunted general said the current rate in April was 5:1, in the same briefing that was the source of your 10:1 link. This is why I asked if you actually read anything you post.
Going to die on your 10:1 Hill aren't you.
This post was edited on 11/28/24 at 11:10 pm
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:23 am to Narax
Even if the Russians do have a 10:1 artillery advantage, it hasn't really mattered in the slightest as there has been very little movement on the frontlines over the last two years. Artillery advantages are negated by the nature of warfare over there. Both sides are dug into trenches and have no doubt carved out shelters to protect themselves from incoming artillery fire. That kind of advantage is only rammed home when the opposing force is in the open, and that's only going to happen during an attack or a retreat.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 6:24 am
Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:39 am to Sahen
quote:Want to buy some ocean front property in Arizona for cheap? Putin will sell oil to China.
The plan is for Ukraine to hold out long enough for sanctions to economically cripple Russia. This is a realistic goal
Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:48 am to hogcard1964
quote:
He claimed he would "end the war" within his first day in office. He has to follow through on this.
Step 1 in ending the war is creating a position with leverage from which to negotiate.
He's creating a hypothitical scenario that is unfavorable to Russia to nudge them into a few concessions that they wouldn't otherwise make. He'll also do the same with Zelensky (though probably not as publicly).
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:07 am to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:Let's assume that Putin's statements about invading Ukraine are true. Trump tells Putin that the Pro-Russians in that region, who have be persecuted by the Ukrainians will be annexed into Russia. Trumps also agrees to do away withe CIA-ran biolabs. Then he turns to Zelensky and tells him the money tap has been turned off. Even with it going at it's current rate, the Ukrainian position in untenable. The deal is, Russia gets to keep a portion of the land they've conquered and Zelensky isn't subjected to the corruption charges that has clearly come from the embezzlement of the billions sent in aid.
Step 1 in ending the war is creating a position with leverage from which to negotiate.
He's creating a hypothitical scenario that is unfavorable to Russia to nudge them into a few concessions that they wouldn't otherwise make. He'll also do the same with Zelensky (though probably not as publicly).
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:20 am to RollTide1987
I don’t believe the numbers at all. We lost 55,000 in Vietnam over 10 years. I’m expected to believe our government that 900,000 died on both sides in the last couple of years? I don’t think so.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:44 am to thebigmuffaletta
They were never winning. They had some nice views in the MSM and Reddit but ultimately they were never winning. Man for man? Sure but in reality no. That's not how Russia goes to war.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:47 am to theballguy
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:51 am to Deplorableinohio
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We lost 55,000 in Vietnam over 10 years. I’m expected to believe our government that 900,000 died on both sides in the last couple of years? I don’t think so.
You can't compare the fighting in Vietnam to the fighting going on in Ukraine. Aside from a few major battles here and there, the Vietnam War was mainly us patrolling the jungles and fighting a guerrilla war against VC and NVA forces for 10-15 years. Warfare in Ukraine is much more conventional with pitched battles being fought in places like Bakhmut leading to tens of thousands of casualties on both sides.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:28 am to John Barron
More empty anti American propaganda...
You just got caught with your pants down on artillery, posting something you would have known was a lie if you just read the article.
Truth obviously doesn't matter one bit to you, just finding Twitter posts that confirm your biases...
People should now beware your information is often misleading.
You just got caught with your pants down on artillery, posting something you would have known was a lie if you just read the article.
Truth obviously doesn't matter one bit to you, just finding Twitter posts that confirm your biases...
People should now beware your information is often misleading.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:41 am to RollTide1987
quote:
Even if the Russians do have a 10:1 artillery advantage, it hasn't really mattered in the slightest as there has been very little movement on the frontlines over the last two years.
Agreed, additionally 155mm arty is not the only mobile firepower.
Himars, UAVs, mortars, are all being used in the artillery role.
The main point to stick on for the 10:1 vs the 3:1 or 5:1, was to point out that Barron has no idea what he's talking about and blindly posting things from Twitter that he hasn't read.
He sees someone post something and he doesn't even question it.
From people claiming to have "DONE THE MATH" to people claiming a US General said 10:1 when in that same briefing he actually said 5:1, Barron has dropped a crazy amount of information that is wrong.
Maybe he knows a lot about politics, but he understands nothing of war.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:49 am to thebigmuffaletta
It’s a damn shame that so many young men have died on both sides that shouldn’t have happened. This war is on the democrats hands. When Barrack Hussein Obama and his CIA installed a pro West government it started. Trump will finish it.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:03 am to John Barron
No doubt that the Russian economy is growing, just as there was no doubt there was historic levels of jobs added under Biden. Also, when I go to the store and pay 50% less a week after they doubled the price, I paid half the price.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:08 am to St Augustine
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So that means you shouldn’t feel bad for them? Are you that locked in to the bullshite of this war that you don’t feel these young loves are worthy of pity? War has always sucked man.
No, it means that the attempt to distinguish the Ukrainian war effort as calloused toward soldiers was not legitimate, as by your own admission, it is the conventional case.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:30 pm to RollTide1987
That is an extremely vague statement. What if the "attacker" is the US and the one being attacked is Somalia? I'd be willing to bet the US would kill the Somalians 100:1 at least
Posted on 11/29/24 at 2:44 pm to RollTide1987
I understand Vietnam and guerrilla warfare, and that what’s happened in Ukraine is different. I’m just commenting on my utter disbelief of what media and our government says what’s happening over there. There is next to no news coverage on a regular basis, print, cable, broadcast networks. Every once in a while you get a proclamation about the hundreds of thousands dead. I don’t believe it, with more than justifiable cause.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 3:40 pm to Deplorableinohio
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There is next to no news coverage on a regular basis, print, cable, broadcast networks.
Which speaks to the intensity of the fighting. Reporters typically like to journey into war zones to make their bones in the trenches and make a name for themselves. Very few have been journeying to the trenches that make up the frontlines in Ukraine because of how dangerous it is. These are conventional engagements involving thousands of troops in close proximity to each other. The threat of death is very real from snipers, artillery, mortars, and drones. That is to say nothing of infantry and armored assaults.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 4:06 pm to coldbeerfan
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It’s a damn shame that so many young men have died on both sides that shouldn’t have happened. This war is on the democrats hands. When Barrack Hussein Obama and his CIA installed a pro West government it started. Trump will finish it.
George W started sending weapons and money to the Ukraine in the mid 2000’s. Ukraine allowed us to use there military bases and sent troops to Afghanistan and Iraq. Ukraine is the only non-NATO country with soldiers in NATO. Russia wasn’t happy about the US using the Ukraine bases.
The Ukraine president spoke at NATO in 2008 about needing more protection after Russia invaded Georgia in 2008
They saw what Russia planned on doing.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 10:51 am to John Barron
Russia and China make claims of gold discoveries or incredible gold purchases every time thier economy gets scrutinized. Both are liars.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 11:31 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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