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re: Illegal immigration question.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:02 pm to AZHorn
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:02 pm to AZHorn
Mexicans haven’t been a problem for a while, in general. For our hemisphere, it’s the northern triangle and Venezuelans. I feel bad for em, but I know how the Honduran political/corruption scheme works, for instance, and they’re getting what they voted for. They’re too self absorbed to wonder why nobody in their caravan is from Costa Rica, as an example.
Parts of Central America are Haiti like. Other parts are DR like.
Parts of Central America are Haiti like. Other parts are DR like.
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:04 pm to LemmyLives
Fair point - people in Costa Rica and Belize are not trying to come here.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:15 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The world needs more ditch diggers, construction workers than it needs computer programmers. We need both here in the US, of course...
frick that lie
If you're not building the sky scrapers or laying asphault in 120 degree heat in Arizona then shut the heck up...
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:28 pm to AZHorn
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If you're not building the sky scrapers or laying asphault in 120 degree heat in Arizona then shut the heck up...
I won't
I've done hard field work.
You're making poor Americans poorer, and you are breaking this country. You're traitors. All of these people, they all have to go.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:31 pm to Lima Whiskey
But construction company owners will make 10% less profit!!!! Think about the rich owners!!!
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:37 pm to Rust Cohle
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Could Hispanic illegal immigration’s be secretly bipartisan supported, partially tolerated, or looked the other way because we need immigration to support the falling caucasian birth rate to continue economic growth, and suppress Islamic growth?
Maybe. But why does it have to be illegal? Accept vetted legal people from other countries. Let’s take everyone’s best and assimilate them to American culture and pay taxes.
What is happening now looks coordinated to create chaos and destroy a country.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:41 pm to Knuckle Checker
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Maybe. But why does it have to be illegal? Accept vetted legal people from other countries. Let’s take everyone’s best and assimilate them to American culture and pay taxes.
I agree with you but the process to go through legal citizenship can be 8 - 10 years which is ridiculous. This is what I was told from a co-worker from Uruguay so I am happy to be told otherwise.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:50 pm to Lima Whiskey
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If you're not building the sky scrapers or laying asphault in 120 degree heat in Arizona then shut the heck up...
I won't
I've done hard field work.
You're making poor Americans poorer, and you are breaking this country. You're traitors. All of these people, they all have to go.
The fact is a lot of us have done that hard work when we were "young." The birth rate isn't keeping up with the demand for those kind of labor workers. Your engineers, scientists, doctors, and nurses arent coming here for that type of work.
At 50 years old, I have no desire to go walk across roof rafters with a sheet of plywood on my back and a 20 foot drop below me like I did in my 20s and 30s...I don't wanna go stack hay or work on the farm either, or go work as a welder in a hot arse shop, or mow lawns in the blazing heat. I've done all that when I was young.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:51 pm to AZHorn
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At 50 years old, I have no desire to go walk across roof rafters with a sheet of plywood on my back and a 20 foot drop below me like I did in my 20s and 30s...I don't wanna go stack hay or work on the farm either, or go work as a welder in a hot arse shop, or mow lawns in the blazing heat. I've done all that when I was young.
There are plenty of Americans in their 20s and 30s to fill these jobs.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:54 pm to AZHorn
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The birth rate isn't keeping up with the demand for those kind of labor workers.
Correct. And government policy punishes natives who want more kids and enables illegal immigration. Almost like that’s what they prefer. Why is that?
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:54 pm to David_DJS
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At 50 years old, I have no desire to go walk across roof rafters with a sheet of plywood on my back and a 20 foot drop below me like I did in my 20s and 30s...I don't wanna go stack hay or work on the farm either, or go work as a welder in a hot arse shop, or mow lawns in the blazing heat. I've done all that when I was young.
There are plenty of Americans in their 20s and 30s to fill these jobs.
Maybe where you live. The employers around here constantly complain they cannot find reliably, steady workers. So, it's either the workers suck or the employers are lieing, or the Government is handing out too much free crap, or the employers themselves suck?
The whole system needs to be fixed.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:55 pm to AZHorn
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The employers around here constantly complain they cannot find reliably, steady workers.
Yes. Employers love to employ downward pressure on wages.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:56 pm to AZHorn
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The birth rate isn't keeping up with the demand for those kind of labor workers.
We’ve destroyed wages for these industries through immigration
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birth rate
The culture that emerged in the West after WW2 suppresses the birth rate.
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At 50 years old, I have no desire to go walk across roof rafters with a sheet of plywood on my back and a 20 foot drop below me like I did in my 20s and 30s...I don't wanna go stack hay or work on the farm either, or go work as a welder in a hot arse shop, or mow lawns in the blazing heat.
You should never stop doing these things
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:56 pm to AZHorn
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Maybe where you live. The employers around here constantly complain they cannot find reliably, steady workers. So, it's either the workers suck or the employers are lieing?
I live in Phoenix.
You missed a possibility - "employers don't want to pay the going rate for an American to fill these jobs, when they can pay illegals 50% less."
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:57 pm to Lima Whiskey
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At 50 years old, I have no desire to go walk across roof rafters with a sheet of plywood on my back and a 20 foot drop below me like I did in my 20s and 30s...I don't wanna go stack hay or work on the farm either, or go work as a welder in a hot arse shop, or mow lawns in the blazing heat.
You should never stop doing these things
c'mon man - I worked outside since I was a kid cutting grass in S. Alabama - I'm done with that shite.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:57 pm to David_DJS
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when they can pay illegals 50% less.
Also, illegals are far less likely to file a disability claim. Or make their employers follow OSHA guidelines. Or an unemployment claim. Etc etc etc.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:59 pm to Rules
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We have an immigration system that supplies qualified and vetted immigrants. We don’t need anything else. We certainly don’t need the people swimming across the river illegally.
EXACTLY!!!!!
We need qualified immigrants that bring something to America not millions of illiterate, landscapers, cleaning ladies, minimum wage immigrants!
How some of you don’t understand this concept is fricking beyond me!!!
We are not the damn gutter of the world when it comes to immigration!!
Posted on 8/11/24 at 4:59 pm to Rust Cohle
Feminism killed human reproduction
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:02 pm to David_DJS
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Maybe where you live. The employers around here constantly complain they cannot find reliably, steady workers. So, it's either the workers suck or the employers are lieing?
I live in Phoenix.
You missed a possibility - "employers don't want to pay the going rate for an American to fill these jobs, when they can pay illegals 50% less."
That's why I stated in my post earlier, the Government needs to set up a system to help them come here legally, if there is a job for them, and no more asylum and freebies...If they have rights and aren't living in the shadows scared of being deported, they are not as likely to get taken advantage of by employers..Everyone benefits that way..
The key being there has to be a job waiting for them here to be able to immigrate...Plus completely shut down illegal immigration to boot, make them come the legal way or face serious consequences...
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:03 pm to Warrior Court
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c'mon man - I worked outside since I was a kid cutting grass in S. Alabama - I'm done with that shite.
I just don't feel the way
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