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re: I'm a DeSantis supporter, but to date, his campaign has been a let down
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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What is keeping you from voting for DeSantis?
If he wins the Primary I will.
Can you say the same if Trump wins it?
rmnldr says he will not...who else joins the club?
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:12 am to Adam Banks
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“Trump is based in policy and desantis just wants to attack”
That’s not at all what I said, leave the quotes off.
This thread is about Ron’s campaign, not a comparison of the two campaigns. And my belief is if you let every conversation about Ron’s campaign turn into it, he doesn’t have a shot.
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Literally in the last 3 days Trump attacks him saying desantis is colluding with the DOJ, enables pedophiles, and makes fun of his ground game effort.’ Desantis does not respond
I’m not sure that’s exactly what was said, but Ron not responding is exactly what I’m saying should be his strategy.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:14 am to pankReb
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What makes this even more wild is how many times we point it out and he still refuses to acknowledge it.
What’s wild is that there is a faction of Ron supporters that believe they can get the W if they just follow the left’s playbook of obsessing over Trump. Because it is a losing strategy.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:14 am to OceanMan
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quote: Trump has shown a winning formula based in policy, quote: Attacking Trump for whatever reason seems to be his his focus,
These are quite literally your words.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:14 am to OceanMan
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What’s wild is that there is a faction of Ron supporters that believe they can get the W if they just follow the left’s playbook of obsessing over Trump. Because it is a losing strategy.
Holy shite.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:15 am to stout
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Everyone that repeats this never has an answer for why it would be different for Ron.
This has been answered multiple times, you just don’t like the answer.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:15 am to low pro drifter
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Based on anonymous sources. The Trump people were using it against DeSantis before he announced
Thanks. Again, I'll double check. I thought this was confirmed but maybe I was mistaken.
In an interview with Hannity:
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Gov. Ron DeSantis says he won't run for president because he's busy 'trying to make sure people are not supporting critical race theory'
No mention of Trump...and that was in 2021 so things change.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:15 am to low pro drifter
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I like DeSantis. But the fact that he got into the race shows a lack of awareness. Trump is unlike any other political figure in my lifetime (45.). DeSantis was never going to beat him and it has only further divided us.
I wish he would've stayed put, allowed Trump another shot, and then be ready in '28. Trumpers would've jumped on board at that point and I feel he would've had a real shot.
Now I'm even less optimistic about the future...hope I'm wrong.
The problem with that is Trump has almost no chance of winning the General and anyone that understands electoral politics can see that. Most of the criticisms of DeSantis' campaign are also from people that simply don't understand how the process works and what is important at this stage. The public by and large isn't paying attention yet and with all the media about the indictments there is nothing DeSantis can do to grab the headlines. That will change as we near the primaries. People don't choose in July the year before an election who they will vote for.
You also have the Trump campaign and MSM trying very hard to get DeSantis out of this race because he has the best chance of winning. The reality is though that DeSantis is focused on ground game and fundamental politics not trying to make a big splash. Part of his appeal is he isn't Trump and yet most of the criticism of him is that he isn't Trump. If DeSantis tried to go be a Rockstar celebrity candidate he would look awkward at best and just a poor copy of Trump at worst.
I also think most Trump supporters don't realize just how broke Trump is, most people don't. He is WAY behind where he needs to be in fundraising and he doesn't have his big donors like before. He also has a massive drag in his funding with the lawsuits. So his only chance is keeping the free media which for now is cooperating and giving him as much oxygen as they can. The most comical thing is people acting like talking about how Biden charging Trump with crimes somehow helps DeSantis. Lol.
They are making Trump into the victim which plays huge in the Primaries but will be toxic in the General, especially when they start asking him the 2 questions that will destroy his campaign.
1. What happened to the $250 million you raised for Stop the Steal?
2. If elected, do you plan to pardon yourself or let the Justice system run its course without interference?
Now to a Trump supporter you may think that's all fine but to anyone else those are serious problems. It's setting him up for a Barry Goldwater style beatdown.
Fortunately though we have time and DeSantis isn't panicking. In fact he is getting better and more disciplined. He's crushing these interviews and I expect he will do well at the Debate. He's already knocked on a million doors and that's only growing. He's playing the long game.
Still, Trump could definitely win and is the favorite right now but as much as people want to act like this is over it really hasn't started.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:16 am to OceanMan
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Attacking Trump for whatever reason seems to be his his focus,
Explain this, Ocean.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:16 am to OceanMan
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I’m not sure that’s exactly what was said, but Ron not responding is exactly what I’m saying should be his strategy.
It’s 100% what was said and what is routinely said by Trump. His attacks have been relentless and vile.
Desantis has virtually never responded. Whenever he does it’s extremely mild and the loons on here FREAK.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:17 am to jlnoles79
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No question he does GOP voters still deserve a chance to choose their nominee.
No argument at all with this.
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Trump thinks this should be a coronation
Should have nothing to do with Desantis campaign, other than using it to your advantage.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:20 am to pankReb
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So you’re taking what he did in 2016 and claiming he’s using the same strategy now? Well…..you’re wrong.
I’m not even sure what you are saying here.
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What mud has Desantis slung?
Yeah, you are missing the point big time.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:20 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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What is keeping you from voting for DeSantis?
His nomination?
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:20 am to Nix to Twillie
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I don’t know if Ron can beat Trump. I just hope enough people realize the bloodbath that awaits if Trump is the nominee.
Paul Ryan said the exact same thing in October 2016.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:21 am to OceanMan
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Yeah, you are missing the point big time.
Then explain your point.
Was your point this?
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Attacking Trump for whatever reason seems to be his his focus,
These were your exact words. What is your point?
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:21 am to burger bearcat
Say what you want about the Poliboard.
5 pages in 2 hours starting at 6:30am is solid.
I wish we could channel our energy into something productive.
5 pages in 2 hours starting at 6:30am is solid.
I wish we could channel our energy into something productive.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:21 am to Flats
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What were those? Who was responsible and who did he promise to attack?
Serious questions?
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:23 am to OceanMan
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Serious questions?
Do you always answer questions with another question instead of….you know….an actual answer?
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:24 am to OceanMan
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Serious questions?
Yes, those are serious questions. I know a couple of the issues he ran on, but I don't remember anything about him claiming that he would attack those responsible. What and who are you talking about?
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:24 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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He's acting a lot like LoomerPot, back when he was pretending to be a Reasonable Bro.
I don’t know those people. What’s clear is that the most vocal supporters of Ron on this board require you to attack Trump incessantly, or you don’t get in the club.
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