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re: Indian Reservations
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:44 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:44 pm to burger bearcat
we signed a treaty
at least we should let the last one(s) stick
Either that or
Order takeout, get the curry
at least we should let the last one(s) stick
Either that or
Order takeout, get the curry
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Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:51 pm to oklahogjr
quote:
Oh you mean they must live in the reservation to see reservation benefits
If that is the way you choose to see it, then sure. Why not.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:55 pm to Narax
Why is an Algonquin tribal member wearing Navajo jewelry?
historically inaccurate
historically inaccurate
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:00 pm to The Torch
I live next to Cherokee, the tribe has a lot of money. They have properties all over the US, 2 casinos, owns the land that Bucee's in Gatlinburg is on and where they are building a whole travel area (entertainment, shopping, lodging). However they share very little with the community. The tribal members are very poor as there are not many jobs here and the tribal jobs do not pay a lot ($20/hr for hospital maintenance is considered a great job). Tribe also pushes Indian "customs" that did not exist in the Cherokee culture.
The area relies on tourism but everything is outdated here.
Lots of drugs and alcohol problems as the tribe gives people about $25K when they turn 21 (or early if in college) and then they only give out a little bit each year. Most tribal members marry within a few families to stay on the baker roll and keep getting money. However many tribal members are entitled and worthless.
The area relies on tourism but everything is outdated here.
Lots of drugs and alcohol problems as the tribe gives people about $25K when they turn 21 (or early if in college) and then they only give out a little bit each year. Most tribal members marry within a few families to stay on the baker roll and keep getting money. However many tribal members are entitled and worthless.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:01 pm to Goforit
quote:
ndians are the true native Americans. Everything was taken from them.
Indians are not native Americans they came from Mexico and Siberia just look at their DNA.
Also they lost the wars just like they took land from other tribes when they won, they lost to the US government. People cry "it was taken/stolen" with not mentioning that tribes stole land from others.
Also you aint going to scalp anything so calm down baw
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:05 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
Drove through there last year. You always hear about the reservations being poor. That was a beautiful place and definitely looked far from poor.
Did you drive to Cherokee, NC where the tribal boundary actually is? Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge is not tribal land. Cherokee NC is a very poor area
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:08 pm to AubieinNC2009
I shared on here during the elections that I knew the Trump campaign was making a play for New Mexico
didn't work out,
but I had mentioned it when I was updating the fact that Musk had paid for door to door campaigns throughout a lot of those swing states and even Chicago and other places
and i've also shared that my parents were missionaries were missionaries to the Navajo nation
fry bread.. delish
So I am familiar to a degree and have been interested in the Native Americans situation
and all that to say this
Reservations are a rural inner city
The Problems are the same. Symptoms get the attention, underlying disease is never addressed
but I will tell you that would be a lot easy politically to flip the reservations and the Indian tribes Than it is to flip the inner city
And I believe it is doable not only in our lifetime but while a lot of you are still posting on this board not across the board but statistically, anecdotally and substantially verifiable ways
in New Mexico places in the northeast where Trump has business relationships because of casinos
That and the Mormons in Vegas,, another reason why we need to control online gaming
If you flip the politics of the tribe, you can start changing the ways things are managed and I believe have real proof and not just a political but cultural way That could make the progress made in 24
permanent
didn't work out,
but I had mentioned it when I was updating the fact that Musk had paid for door to door campaigns throughout a lot of those swing states and even Chicago and other places
and i've also shared that my parents were missionaries were missionaries to the Navajo nation
fry bread.. delish
So I am familiar to a degree and have been interested in the Native Americans situation
and all that to say this
Reservations are a rural inner city
The Problems are the same. Symptoms get the attention, underlying disease is never addressed
but I will tell you that would be a lot easy politically to flip the reservations and the Indian tribes Than it is to flip the inner city
And I believe it is doable not only in our lifetime but while a lot of you are still posting on this board not across the board but statistically, anecdotally and substantially verifiable ways
in New Mexico places in the northeast where Trump has business relationships because of casinos
That and the Mormons in Vegas,, another reason why we need to control online gaming
If you flip the politics of the tribe, you can start changing the ways things are managed and I believe have real proof and not just a political but cultural way That could make the progress made in 24
permanent
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:10 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Why is an Algonquin tribal member wearing Navajo jewelry?
historically inaccurate
Its just cosplay to them.
Mark F. Brown, Ambassador
William Quidgeon Jr., Councilor
Susan Meehan, "Golden Wolf," Secretary & Justice
Linda Cholewa McCarthy, Elder & Justice
Bruce Bozsum, "Two Dogs," Elder & Justice
They bribed politicians in 1994 to give them land and casino rights. Its 2400 mostly Italians and WASPs.
Again I'd pull their pretend tribes casino in a heartbeat and hand it over to actual tribes.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:11 pm to Narax
Their culture is not a costume
Although those people,,
there is Injun blood is those genes
data point A
Facial hair
Although those people,,
there is Injun blood is those genes
data point A
Facial hair
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:13 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Their culture is not a costume
Navajo culture seems to be a costume to them...
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:14 pm to oklahogjr
quote:
You mean you don't understand why treaties have to be honored?
You realize that the reservations weren't formed until 1851, right?
There was a bill signed into law that formed them. It wasn't a treaty.
There was a law that formed them and there can be a law now that reverses the previous law. That sort of thing happens all the time.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:15 pm to burger bearcat
Get those reservations
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:18 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
we signed a treaty
Not for the establishment of any reservations we didn't.
We passed a law. The Indian Appropriations Act, to be exact. In 1851.
Yes, there was a reservation established before, in 1758, but the federal government wasn't involved in it. It was established by a pastor for Indians who had converted to Christianity.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:24 pm to Goforit
quote:
Indians are the true native Americans.
You don't reckon they came across the Bering Strait?
quote:
Everything was taken from them.
Well, not everything. Some things they quite willingly sold for beads.
quote:
Those who seek to take away what they have now are my enemy.
I think this was the OP's point. You sound like you are a citizen of an Indian tribe, not the United States of America. That's fine, but you shouldn't get the benefit of both.
You've declared yourself an enemy of the US on a message board. Might want to watch your back in case the FBI takes you seriously.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:43 pm to The Torch
quote:
Peter Santelleo or whatever had a YouTube video about a reservation where all the natives received stupid sums of money.
Today we travel to Cherokee in North Carolina to witness a tribe that’s doing extremely well financially. Kids graduate high school with hundreds of thousands of dollars set aside in an account, higher education and health care are paid for by the tribe, and their land is some of the most beautiful in America. Join me for this eye-opening experience!
was watching one of those murder/mystery shows, and the guy who disappeared was half indian, and they stated he got a salary of $85K for the Indian half he had.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:45 pm to Jrv2damac
quote:I've got to say, I frequent the local Creek indian casino from time to time. The next time I see an employee there that looks remotely Native American, will be the first.
They still aren’t. You have tribes like the Shakopee where everyone is a fricking millionaire then you have God awful places like Pine Ridge and Wind River.
You also have to consider how corrupt those reservations can be. Navajo Nation is the size of West Virginia with assets of over 2 billion, yet the poverty rate in it is 40-50% and has 13 grocery stores total.
That being said, the little piece of land that have in Wetumpka, AL that has their casino has been a massive profit maker for them. I have not problem with that. What I do have a problem with is that they are afforded a type of sovereignty INSIDE the USA. Case point, one of their employees left the their property while on the job, in official capacity, and driving a tribal vehicle. The employee was drunk and hit someone. The victim was seriously hurt. The tribe pulled the "sovereignty" clause and tried to pull the defense that all cases against them, were to go thru their courts, not ours. Care to guess how their courts rule against any claims against the tribe?
Indian casinos are notorious for saying a slot machine "malfunctioned" when someone hits a giant jackpot. The patron challenges it, and it goes to the "Indian Gaming Commision". The casino never loses those cases. They can basically do anything they want on their land, so keep that in mind when you are on it. In the case of the drunk employee, they did lose that one. 
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:57 pm to Goforit
quote:
I am descended from a great Indian chief. Indians are the true native Americans. Everything was taken from them. Those who seek to take away what they have now are my enemy. I have never scalped anyone but there is always a first time for everything.
Wan hanna poo
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:58 pm to TRUERockyTop
I've had many mid-day breaks from trout fishing at the Tellico Beach drive in, but thats been 40+ years ago, not sure if it's still there.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:04 pm to greygoose
quote:
The tribe pulled the "sovereignty" clause and tried to pull the defense that all cases against them, were to go thru their courts, not ours.
That is not sovereignty that is a court not ruling properly. Public Law 280 should have kept it in state court. There are cases headed to the Supreme Court about their "sovereignty" and what it actually entails. There is a case from out west (I think MT) were a game warden went on tribal land to arrest illegal hunting as its federal land.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:07 pm to Goforit
quote:
I am descended from a great Indian chief. Indians are the true native Americans. Everything was taken from them. Those who seek to take away what they have now are my enemy. I have never scalped anyone but there is always a first time for everything.
they were conquered, just like they conquered other tribes. those botches got ran, and we gave them blankets with a plague. #Owned
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