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re: Intelligence and cultural/societal outcomes
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:54 pm to Powerman
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:54 pm to Powerman
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That and environment plays more of a role than people like to think
oh 100%
our underclass isn't stupid b/c they're breeding poorly
they're stupid b/c they do lots of things that negatively affect intelligence output over time and have created a culture that rewards (within that culture) these behaviors. that's why they call it the cycle, and why it's almost impossible to fix these populations
you have to get to the point of removing children from these areas and bringing them to better situations, and then having a few generations develop apart from this toxic culture. it's just impossible in terms of reality
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:57 pm to 4cubbies
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Opiate epidemic, HIV/AIDS, gang and gun violence, drug addiction... These are all very commonplace in these "less desirable" populations and act as population control.
Wrong. The birth rate in uneducated areas far outpaces the death rate.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:58 pm to Strannix
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Is it safe to say that genetic groups with lower average IQ's tend to make poor decisions that affect outcomes?
It's absolutely true, but it isn't "safe to say" because saying it can cost you your job.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it would be insane to walk away at this point
Time + relationships = $$$$$$
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:01 pm to Kentucker
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Wrong. The birth rate in uneducated areas far outpaces the death rate.
Do you have data to back this up?
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:03 pm to Strannix
Dumb eugenics thread. It's valid to argue that more educated populations are better off than less educated groups but this thread is about IQs. The former is objective but the latter and the OP are stupidly subjective.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:04 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you have data to back this up?
You first.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:09 pm to Powerman
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I don't know if there is a correlation between raw IQ and decision making Sounds like you just made up a bunch of shite in your head that you want to be true to be honest Actually the more I read it, the more I question if you are ironically one of the lower average IQ people you're referring to
You serious Clark?
You admitted in your first sentence that you “don’t know if it’s correlated.” If you don’t know then shut your pie hole or present another factor that could potentially correlate with outcomes.
Smh
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:12 pm to Kentucker
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You first.
Birth rates have been declining rapidly for decades
It all depends on what you call "uneducated areas"
There are countries that are at or below the replacement rate that aren't exactly first world
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:13 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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You serious Clark?
Yes
This whole thread is based off of some pretty broad assumptions
Most of which are completely made up out of thin air
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:14 pm to Strannix
Aaaaannnd we're on to eugenics.
Keep on keepin' on, you budding neo-Nazis.
Keep on keepin' on, you budding neo-Nazis.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:15 pm to 4cubbies
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Americans don't want to see children starve, no matter how stupid their parents are.
I don't think this would ever be a problem. Some kids get three meals at school
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:16 pm to Strannix
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:17 pm to Powerman
They are broad. But that doesn't make them untrue.
Just look at the correlation between IQ and obesity, income, health, etc.
The majority of those issues are about choices.
Now the argument whether or not they are true, free choices is for another thread, but they are still choices.
Just look at the correlation between IQ and obesity, income, health, etc.
The majority of those issues are about choices.
Now the argument whether or not they are true, free choices is for another thread, but they are still choices.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:18 pm to Strannix
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If this is true why are we enabling or subsidizing groups with these genetic traits to reproduce at much faster rates than higher IQ groups who make better decisions?
Neuter the trailer parks and projects
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:19 pm to Powerman
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This whole thread is based off of some pretty broad assumptions
In general, your capacity for intelligence will affect your decision making. I don't really think its debatable
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In general, your capacity for intelligence will affect your decision making. I don't really think its debatable
It's just not a perfect correlation
If OP would have just said what he really wanted to say then this thread would have probably been deleted by admins
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:23 pm to Powerman
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It's just not a perfect correlation
of course not
not every intelligent person will make perfect decisions, or even optimal decisions over time
also, sometimes hyper intelligent people make rational decisions for contexts that don't fit into society and this leads to terrible results. here is probably the best example of such a scenario
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:24 pm to Powerman
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It's just not a perfect correlation
I don't think there are perfect correlations, there will always be acceptions.
I'm pretty sure that most people of slightly lower IQ and above understand why their actions directly affect their outcomes and can control it, or at least attempt to do so. When you get to the bottom 20% or so, I don't think this is true.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:25 pm to Powerman
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Birth rates have been declining rapidly in some countries for decades.
FIFY. Particularly Russia and Japan.
However, they've been increasing rapidly in more countries. Especially in African and Middle East countries.
Overall, world population is increasing at a steady rate. There are 7.6 billion people as of now and we'll cross the 8 billion mark by 2025. 9.5 billion by 2050 and 13 billion by 2100 unless something happens.
And yes, higher education parallels lower birth rates. However, it has nothing to do with group genetics. There are smart and dumb people in every group. Intelligence is an individual thing.
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