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re: Interesting how "Evangelicals" are separating themselves from "Protestants".
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:33 am to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:33 am to Mo Jeaux
Mo, are you letting a 5 year old type your messages?
SFP and squirrel may have cognitive impairment, but at least they bring SOME substance and civility. You can't even muster that.
Congrats, your posts are worse than people with mental problems
SFP and squirrel may have cognitive impairment, but at least they bring SOME substance and civility. You can't even muster that.
Congrats, your posts are worse than people with mental problems
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:36 am to McLemore
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Mainline Protestants” have run off into the sunset of unbiblical leftist doom. They know and preach far more about queer theory and liberation anti-theology than they do the Scriptures, the Apostles’ Creed, the Westminster Confession, etc.
“Evangelicals” has become a catch-all pejorative phrase for ??? pretty much every professing Christian who isn’t a leftist or I guess Roman Catholic.
It’s hard to find definitions that the statist godless left won’t redefine to ridicule and revile people with whom they disagree.
This isn’t true across the board. There are lots of non-evangelical Protestant denominations that reject wokeness. The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod for example is non-evangelical and not woke. No female pastors allowed and LGBTQ ideology is rejected.
And there are some evangelicals who embrace this woke thing.
For example, just within Lutheranism:
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) - Supports women’s ordination (since 1970), LGBTQ+ clergy and same-sex marriage (since 2009).
Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod (LCMS) - Opposes women’s ordination and LGBTQ+ inclusion
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) - Rejects women’s ordination, LGBTQ+ affirmation
North American Lutheran Church (NALC) - Opposes women’s ordination (but allows it in some cases); rejects LGBTQ+ clergy/marriage
Association of Free Lutheran Congregations (AFLC) - No women’s ordination; opposes LGBTQ+ inclusion
Evangelical Lutheran Synod (ELS) - Rejects women’s ordination, LGBTQ+ issues
Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ (LCMC) - Varies by congregation (some ordain women, others don’t); biblical authority; close communion preferred. Allows flexibility on LGBTQ+ issues.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 10:42 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:The "record" is a primary source that is jealously monotheistic, abhors paganism and there is no competing primary or secondary source. Squirrel has yet to show any competing source that suggests they weren't monotheistic. All that has happened is to assert "it was changed" without any proof and "trust me, bro."
historical and linguistic record
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:05 am to somethingdifferent
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Squirrel, there is no such consensus
There is.
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I have asked you and Dan to prove it.
Dan? Your Internet buddy has you flustered?
He’s pretty good with Hebrew and Greek and is I think the most widely known and watched biblical scholar in the world. He does have his own dogma that clouds his own interpretations ironically, for example his view that homosexuality buttsex is not prohibited by Yahweh (who he calls “Adonai”, which is a version of the name “Aten” which h was the single god worshipped by Pharoah Ahkenaten when he attempted to establish the first monotheistic religion in the world).
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Show me the list of scholars with their academic publications that support your point.
You can maybe start here if you’re serious:
The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology’s New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts
by Israel Finkelstein & Neil Asher Silberman
These two guys are both PhDs and professors and Jewish and their credentials are too long to list - I’d run out of characters. You might want to look them up and read their book.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:26 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:It's awesome. I point out how your posts are worthless and what do you do? DOUBLE DOWN. lol
Let’s face it, you don’t have the capacity understand academic citations
clown
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:31 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Still clinging to that 1 citation, huh? And that citation is being refuted in real time. Do you know the basis of Smith's assertions? Do you know the counter arguments?
below is the bio of someone
Or did you just pick up this 1 book at Barnes and noble because it affirmed your fragile emotional state? It helps you escape the judgment of truth? Keep running little guy. You'll outrun God eventually. lol
Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:44 am to Squirrelmeister
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If you’re not afraid, you should read and or research the Melchizedek Scroll 11Q13 from the Dead Sea scrolls
While I’m certainly not afraid to read this, or the Enoch books, or the Isaiah scroll, or any other non-canonized works- I just don’t have time. I wish I did, but I don’t. Maybe in about 20 more years, I’ll have time to get started. It’s something I look forward to. As much as I’d love to make my living from studying and disseminating all things Christ- I’m unfortunately relegated to blue collar/white trash status for now. The world needs electricians waaayyy more than we need biblical scholars, and I’m happy to oblige.
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Don’t try to connect any of that with 1 Corinthians 2 or the epistle to the Hebrews!
Unless you want to end up a Godless heathen like me.
I actually think you’re a lot closer than you realize. As far as the apocryphal/pseudepigraphal works, in relation to scripture- I have no doubt that various works have varying degrees of biblical truth. But the canon of scripture, as received by the early church, is all I need (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Anything/everything that stands in opposition to the Manufacturer’s Instructions is inherently dangerous- as evidenced by your last statement.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:00 pm to somethingdifferent
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:02 pm to Prodigal Son
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Anything/everything that stands in opposition to the Manufacturer’s Instructions is inherently dangerous
Posted on 10/9/25 at 12:14 pm to gaetti15
quote:Not exactly. Hebrews references something in Jewish history that's also referenced by Maccabees. The request is for an example of scripture referring to something not in scripture that's inspired, authoritative or indispensable for salvation. Not a generic reference to a historical event or place
Hebrews 11:35 is an indisputable reference to 2 Maccabees 7
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:01 pm to FearTheFish
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Papal "infallibility", claim that Popes are divine
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That's not what papal infallibility is.
infallible /in-fal'?-b?l/
adjective
1) Incapable of erring.
"an infallible guide; an infallible source of information."
2) Incapable of failing; certain.
"an infallible antidote; an infallible rule."
3) Incapable of error in expounding doctrine on faith or morals.
I stand by the definition of "infallible" being within "divine" parameters.
How would you define "infallible"?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:07 pm to EphesianArmor
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:16 pm to somethingdifferent
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There has never been a command from Jesus or an Apostle to practice any of the Catholic distinctives.
Although the infestation of Feminist thought and misguided ideas of equality have largely destroyed this “tradition” in most RC churches (except the Latin Mass folks), it had and still has Apostolic and Scriptural authority.
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Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.
For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head.
For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God.
Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God.
1 Corinthians 11:2-16
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:16 pm to gaetti15
I don't check blind links.
Why don't you explain yourself?
Why don't you explain yourself?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:22 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:According to your opinion, which is irrelevant in discussions about truth claims.
What a sad way to go through life.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:27 pm to EphesianArmor
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don't check blind links.
Why don't you explain yourself?
Its Catholic answers of course!
Stop being a pussy. Im not sending you to BBC websites on this forum
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:29 pm to gaetti15
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Stop being a pussy.
Projection, Sweetie? Very lame.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:31 pm to EphesianArmor
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Projection, Sweetie? Very lame.
However you decide in your head that you dont want to read it.
You do you
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:43 pm to FooManChoo
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According to your opinion, which is irrelevant in discussions about truth claims.
If your “Truth” is so fragile that it could be shattered by you exploring other works out of curiosity, it is indeed sad. And FYI, that’s not the first time that Prodigal Son was dismissive of someone pointing out another work (and not in an attempt to rebut the Bible, just to read the other work out if intellectual curiosity).
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:44 pm to somethingdifferent
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Mo, are you letting a 5 year old type your messages?
SFP and squirrel may have cognitive impairment, but at least they bring SOME substance and civility. You can't even muster that.
Congrats, your posts are worse than people with mental problems
Meh. My responses to you are commensurate with the quality of your posts. You lie, but you do it so affirmatively in an attempt to make people think that you know what you’re talking about. It’s pretty clear that you do not.
And by the way, it’s complete hypocrisy and quite frankly bullshite, that you post as if you’re being cordial in this thread and others, while you simultaneously say that others have mental problems and cognitive deficiencies. I think you can go frick yourself.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 4:48 pm
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