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re: Interesting stabilized shot of Pretti's death.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:08 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:08 pm to SallysHuman
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I assume something happened prior to the shove.
You should ask yourself why you are so quick to give the benefit of a doubt when you haven't seen the evidence
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You tell me
Maybe because she didn't belong there.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:08 pm to Tmcgin
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Disarmed and shot....
ICE armed Trump rally retards.....stupid things happen
Why are they all so damn fat too?
not murder...just MAGA dumbassery result
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:08 pm to ThuperThumpin
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The way it went down in the video it hard to see what attempts were made to direct or command him to do anything.that he could respond to......when he got between the woman an the BP agent he was immediately blasted twice in the face with chemical irritant. At that point he was probably fricked up, couldnt see, breath and in a panic state. He was then immediately brought down and tackled by 6 agents and shot seconds later.
Yea he fricked up engaging with law enforcement in that situation while armed but this wasn't a calm methodical arrest with an officer giving specific commands and him.having an opportunity to respond but refused
He's a 38 year old healthcare worker, I think he's intelligent enough to comply without being told how to. Or, at the very least give it a good college try.
There is absolutely nothing he did that suggested he was interested in complying.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:08 pm to David_DJS
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Maybe because she didn't belong there.
It's a public street/sidewalk
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:09 pm to Robin Masters
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Why are you putting in quotes things I didn’t say?
The portion of your post I quoted, I copied and pasted
I only edited my prior post to account for things like what you said
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While completely avoiding the hypothetical?
I addressed it with my edit (bolded to make that easier to find)
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:09 pm to Azkiger
It looks like the worst case would be negligent discharge.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:09 pm to Azkiger
No argument from me. 
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:10 pm to Powerman
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You should ask yourself why you are so quick to give the benefit of a doubt when you haven't seen the evidence
Simple.
This incident happened in an area infested with those impeding agent's work. I've seen plenty of evidence of that even without watching this particular video.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:10 pm to Powerman
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You should ask yourself why you are so quick to give the benefit of a doubt when you haven't seen the evidence
Because we've seen dozens of videos of these interactions, right? The idiots standing in front of the vehicles, the idiots blowing whistles/horns in the face of ICE, the idiots standing/pushing, the idiots spitting - so that's probably why some might give the benefit of the doubt to law enforcement while considering whether or not they just randomly shoved a woman to the ground.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:10 pm to SallysHuman
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I'm at home
Then there's no reason you can't watch the videos.
Good grief.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:11 pm to Azkiger
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I think he's intelligent enough to comply
The point is there doesn't seem to be an opportunity to comply
And this normally wouldn't have been that big of a deal, but in this instance the LEO fricked up (accidental discharge) which led to them compounding that mistake with worse ones (killing him).
Once LEO reacted, he got maced and went down and that was that, basically. Nothing indicates flailing or fighting, and the killing was a few seconds later (again, likely due to LEO negligence/mistakes)
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:11 pm to wackatimesthree
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or there is a liar here, and it's you.
This is a lie.
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And that's what the eyewitnesses said as well.
Link
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If the word "attacked" is what you object to,
Huge "D"ifference wouldn't you agree? Would love to what led up to this "attack" of this poor "woman".
Why were they there, what purpose did it serve.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:11 pm to Powerman
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It's a public street/sidewalk
Why do you think that matters if she's interfering with law enforcement?
You can't just pull over and stick your nose in a traffic stop, right? Why would this be different (assuming she was sticking her nose in an ICE operation)?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:11 pm to wackatimesthree
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Then there's no reason you can't watch the videos.
My son is doing schoolwork... I'm not distracting him by watching youtubes or x videos. He works slow af as it is.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:12 pm to David_DJS
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(assuming she was sticking her nose in an ICE operation)?
The ICE operation was across the street
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:12 pm to Powerman
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He was trying to protect a woman they attacked
You ABSOLUTELY have the right (not according to the laws of the state, but according to natural laws) to “protect” someone the police “attack”. In fact, you should do this if you are absolutely convinced it’s the right thing to do. But you should expect to either kill them or be killed yourself once you go down that path.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The ICE operation was across the street
You read that in the incident report, did ya?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but in this instance the LEO fricked up (accidental discharge)
That's not established at this point. And even if it were, we don't know if the LEO caused it. There are videos floating around of that gun accidentally discharging through no fault of the handler.
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Once LEO reacted, he got maced and went down and that was that
No, he rose back up (didn't try and stay down) AND reached behind himself, into his waistband.
He wasn't clawing at his face after being maced.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:15 pm to SallysHuman
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I assume something happened prior to the shove.
That's a hell of an unfounded assumption.
You should have just told powerman, "I don't care what your description is because I've already decided that this couldn't have happened unless it was the protestor's fault, so regardless of what you say, I'm just going to respond with," that video just didn't show the part where it was the woman's fault."
It would have saved both of you (and me) some time.
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