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re: Is a Four-Year Degree Worth It?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:51 am to Narax
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:51 am to Narax
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Unfortunately no one has done the college by college every degree, as I suspect that the sample rate is low for many.
The best shot of this being done is by the universities themselves. But they have absolutely zero incentive to do so, so they never will.
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:52 am to the808bass
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The government could cap student loan amounts correlated to the degree program pursued. Social work? You’re going to be making $40k-$45k out of college. So your maximum student loan amount is xxx.
You mean like how the real world does loans? What a crazy idea
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:53 am to NC_Tigah
If I were a young man under age 40 with any aptitude for construction, home renovation, electrical, mechanical, plumbing, HVAC, etc, I would get with an established business, learn the business, eventually start my own business and start stacking dollar bills. 
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:54 am to dukeg7213
Leave college with a trade
Engineer
Accountant
Programmer (maybe Ai casualty)
Architect
Going to college and getting a Marketing degree is worthless
Engineer
Accountant
Programmer (maybe Ai casualty)
Architect
Going to college and getting a Marketing degree is worthless
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:54 am to texag7
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Taking a handful of electives nobody remembers a year later
Certificate class mindset
The educated class does value this information and largely remembers it
And you will take this as an insult and thrust the chip on your shoulder, but I'm trying to explain how you are accurately explaining the different mentalities.
If you're going to just go through the motions and not retain the information, there should be a path for people like you to just skip it and save the time/money
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Being "educated" is about more than just a singular focus, though.
What I think you're trying to discuss is a "classical" education. I don't think dropping the few classes I took that contributed little would have had a major impact on my schedule, but saving money is saving money. If you want an engineering certificate or a lawyer certificate you can get it without reading Shakespeare and save a few bucks. Ok.
But the concept of "education" just means you've learned something. Someone going through a welding course is getting an education, they're being educated, use whatever phrase you like. They're learning, just like someone getting one of your certificates or degrees is learning.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:57 am to the808bass
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You think a student is better prepared for a career by taking Drawing or Music Theory or the History of Paganism and Christianity?
Imagine being so dumb you push back on the objectively factual statement that “hey, that guys who wants to be an engineer probably shouldn’t have to take basket weaving to fulfill some ludicrous curriculum requirements.”
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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The educated class does value this information and largely remembers it
No they don’t
I’m one of them. Nobody in those classes remembers anything or cares. It’s fulfilling a requirement
I was in classes of 75-100 kids, all of whom would smoke you on the SAT/ACT and none of us gave a shite about electives
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:03 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Imagine being so dumb you push back on the objectively factual statement that “hey, that guys who wants to be an engineer probably shouldn’t have to take basket weaving to fulfill some ludicrous curriculum requirements.”
That’s not my argument
. Of course you’re a black guy that with DEI still couldn’t hack an American med school. So I don’t expect you to grasp anything beyond surface level.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:04 am to Flats
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or a lawyer certificate y
That isn't really possible in my scheme as the certificate is a terminal designation and you couldn't go to law school
But that can steer the conversation in another path, which is how we should be promoting the apprenticeship path again. I've promoted going back to this with lawyering as far back as me being in law school.
That would also help in the desire to separate education from trade schools/paths.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:06 am to onmymedicalgrind
And the struggles that happen at the university to dictate what will be requirements for degrees.
My dad was in the statistics department. They were low man on the totem pole in many ways. They lost a lot of students when the Business department took over their own stats class. Which means less professors and less money for the department. A lot of it is a game.
Some universities are considering 90-hour programs for elementary education teachers. That’s probably fine in reality. Even if it’s a little sad. We should tighten the curriculum for public schools on the back end to adjust probably.
My dad was in the statistics department. They were low man on the totem pole in many ways. They lost a lot of students when the Business department took over their own stats class. Which means less professors and less money for the department. A lot of it is a game.
Some universities are considering 90-hour programs for elementary education teachers. That’s probably fine in reality. Even if it’s a little sad. We should tighten the curriculum for public schools on the back end to adjust probably.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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That isn't really possible in my scheme as the certificate is a terminal designation and you couldn't go to law school
You're cutting out fluff; why would a law certificate require grad school? You just go to a school and learn law stuff just like engineers learn engineer stuff and doctors learn doctoring stuff. Boom, lawyer certificate.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:09 am to texag7
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Of course you’re a black guy that with DEI still couldn’t hack an American med school.
This is contradictory. A black dude with halfway legit scores is getting multiple offers for med school. He’s in a desired sub speciality pre - no scores on Step 1 so he did well. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:09 am to texag7
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I’m one of them. Nobody in those classes remembers anything or cares. It’s fulfilling a requirement
I can still tell you the difference in Doric, Ionic, and Corinthian columns and discuss large parts of the Odyssey and Iliad from an Honors class I took in 2001.
Hell, just yesterday I was relying (internally) on an undergrad class I took about Memory and Forgetting when discussing the Satanic Panic.
Even if some of this stuff isn't directly referenced (like my examples above), they form a foundation from which the other education/comprehension was built. Film classes, history classes, theater classes, math, English, etc. They all form the foundation of how I look at big problems and form worldviews. And those are all outside of my degree/minor path (and prior to law school).
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:10 am to onmymedicalgrind
Cnra course is no breeze. The people replacing them , the associate degreed is the way to go
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:10 am to the808bass
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My dad was in the statistics department. They were low man on the totem pole in many ways. They lost a lot of students when the Business department took over their own stats class. Which means less professors and less money for the department. A lot of it is a game.
This just reminds me of my irrational hatred of Business Calculus.
I had to interject.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:11 am to texag7
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I was in classes of 75-100 kids, all of whom would smoke you on the SAT/ACT and none of us gave a shite about electives
Imagine bragging about your ACT score as an adult
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:11 am to Flats
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You're cutting out fluff; why would a law certificate require grad school?
It's a graduate program, but you also didn't quote where I promoted going back to apprenticeships, which would require very little schooling.
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You just go to a school and learn law stuff just like engineers learn engineer stuff and doctors learn doctoring stuff. Boom, lawyer certificate.
Doctors also require a post-grad path, FWIW.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:11 am to texag7
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Nobody in those classes remembers anything or cares. It’s fulfilling a requirement
This is exactly the difference he’s calling out, rahtard.
I thoroughly enjoyed the first half of my Philosophy of the Mind class which was writing intensive (meaning one paper due every week, plus a capstone paper). Nowhere near anything in my degree (which is nowhere near anything I currently do).
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's a graduate program,
I understand that's the way it works right now, but why? Go straight to law school, get law certificate. There's no reason medicine couldn't function the same way.
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