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Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:00 am to
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5498 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:00 am to
Yep, obama-scam was INTENTIONALLY designed to fail.

Designed to fail and pave the way for commie-care.

The big insurance companies are making mega OT $$$ off it.

Now, question for the ill-liberals here: If obama-scam is SO affordable, the why does it need hundreds of billions of our hard-earned tax dollars to support it?
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
821 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:10 am to
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So where is trump's plan?
It is neither the responsibility of the President nor legislators to come up with a plan for ‘healthcare’. That is what got us into this mess.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48856 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:12 am to
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Worst president ever

Hard to rank LBJ and BHO - except for the fact that BHO could never have occurred without LBJ's purposeful establishment of a largely impoverished and dependent on welfare black voting bloc.

BHO took full advantage of that and cemented it further into permanence.

Tump put a dent in the black voter base with his out-of-nowhere victories in 2016 and 2024 - Dems are now pivoting to importing hordes of illegal aliens to bolster their representation numbers via the census and voter fraud.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15132 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:18 am to
It is pretty shite.

Of all the people they said would get Healthcare that didn't have it only like 13% ended up getting it..

In exchange everything skyrocketed and is still going up.

Employers have also had to scale back expanding to keep up with the costs for those that supplement their employees healthcare.

Its been devastating for small business owners. I myself would have a business if healthcare was cheaper for individuals like myself. I looked into it and I just can't afford to take the gamble.

They could drop Obamacare right now and allow people to buy insurance across state lines to open competition and it would go down immediately.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:25 am to
NAFTA was bad, The WTO opened the door to China, but luckily I was reminded by a liberal divorce lawyer that despite all models and evidence in existence, neither of these caused millions of job losses in the USA.
Posted by HurricaneCamille
Member since Oct 2024
2348 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:30 am to
Absolutely. No argument from me.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9521 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:31 am to
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This is the cop out that Democrats take. "Where is the government program to replace the current program"? How do you sell legislation to voters when the fix is entirely outside of government? You are correct, though. Republicans have had nearly a decade to build and message against Obamacare and they haven't done jack


This. The solution is pay your own, and buy a catastrophic coverage policy, and watch people get healthier because being fat and drugged costs too much.
Posted by retired_tiger
Member since Oct 2025
546 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:43 am to
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It is neither the responsibility of the President nor legislators to come up with a plan for ‘healthcare’.

Seems that you should message that to trump.

trump has been telling us for years that he would have a better plan.

But trump lied again.
Posted by retired_tiger
Member since Oct 2025
546 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:50 am to
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Worst president ever

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5936 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:54 am to
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Worst president ever


According to a "political scholar" survey?



That survey would be 90% left wingers.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19317 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:43 am to
They have Biden in the top half
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19273 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:55 am to
Connecting "no pre-existing" was the goal that keeps this difficult to change. Otherwise it's an easy fix. Ore existing conditons used to have a waiting period, or went uncovered.

Think about this: You're the insurer. Someone applies and explains they've had 4 wrecks, 10 speeding tickets, and 3 DUIs. Do you want to insure that risk? That's what medical insurance is up against.


Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83824 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:36 am to
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Section 8


Destroyed many working class neighborhoods.

The damage is incalculable. The costs of mass migration caused by subsidizing housing (not specifically Section 8) is impossible to measure. Consider the crime that’s spread, the new infrastructure that’s been built, and then built further and further out from city centers. The traffic, the new schools, the new roads, the additional law enforcement. The millions of hours of wasted time the middle class sits in traffic just to live in a place where the public schools are decent—where the subsidized housing hasn’t arrived yet.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20768 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:42 am to
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where the subsidized housing hasn’t arrived yet.


Entropy is real.

Tendency to disorder.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39183 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:43 am to
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Is Obamacare the worst legislation since NAFTA?
Nah. That title goes to the Patriot Act.
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