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Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:00 pm to Privateer 2007
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There are 2 options, in my opinion. Regarding "vaccine" effectiveness.
1) Israel is full of shite.
2) the US is full of shite.
No. Read the latest British data. It more in line with Israel.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:34 pm to RiverCityTider
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read British data. more in line with Israel
Wouldn't that point to US Data being bullshite?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:25 pm to League Champs
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uh, explain to me like I'm a 5th grader as to why vaccinated people are dying At All? Isn't that the reason they rushed to get vaccinated, to not die?
You know the answer. The vaccine was never purported to be 100% effective. It is supposed to be better than doing nothing.
And there are stats out there that say fewer deaths snd lighter cases result from being vaccinated.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:00 pm to Jjdoc
They don't show the most important numbers
1) Number of vaccinated per 100k that got sick and died
Number of unvaccinated per 100k who got sick and died
2) Number of vaccinated per 100k that recovered
Number of unvaccinated per 100k that recovered
1) Number of vaccinated per 100k that got sick and died
Number of unvaccinated per 100k who got sick and died
2) Number of vaccinated per 100k that recovered
Number of unvaccinated per 100k that recovered
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:09 pm to Mfdtiger
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If delta was the original strain, and no one had antibodies, there would be mass graves right now.
Didn't the experts tell us that as viruses mutate, they become more contagious and less deadly?
So how does less deadly = mass graves?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:22 pm to doubleb
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The vaccine was never purported to be 100% effective.
When the President of the United States says, "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”, it's not unreasonable for people who depend on leaders for truth to conclude 100% effectiveness is to be expected.
They need to learn that politicians cannot be trusted.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:24 pm to doubleb
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You know the answer. The vaccine was never purported to be 100% effective. It is supposed to be better than doing nothing.
And there are stats out there that say fewer deaths snd lighter cases result from being vaccinated.
Yes they did
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:01 pm to OGtigerfan87
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All this post shows is that you don’t understand statistics
Ok. Tell us. According to Pfizer’s approval study, how many people have to vaccinated to prevent one case of Covid?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:17 pm to doubleb
Error
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:06 pm to Loserman
quote:They don't show the important numbers because this board doesn't care about facts.
They don't show the most important numbers
1) Number of vaccinated per 100k that got sick and died
Number of unvaccinated per 100k who got sick and died
2) Number of vaccinated per 100k that recovered
Number of unvaccinated per 100k that recovered
The vaccination rate in Israel among ages 60+ is greater than 85%, but we will go with 85% to be conservative. Per OP's chart, 306 aged 60+ vaccinated deaths vs 199 unvaccinated.
Death rates normalized:
Vaccinated: 25 per 100k
Unvaccinated: 95 per 100k
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:23 pm to Reubaltaich
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the jab is only providing antibodies for the 'old' chyna virus.
There is no "old" china virus. There is no delta. It is the excuse they are using for people still getting sick, spreading the virus, and dying. Since the vaccine does not work as a vaccine, you should be asking what the hell are they so adamant about injecting into every man, woman, and child in the US (except for our border jumpers).
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:43 pm to doubleb
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You know the answer. The vaccine was never purported to be 100% effective.
The chief medical officer of the largest hospital in la quote: "
O'Neal put it plainly: "if you don't choose the vaccine, you're choosing death."
That implies 100%.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:51 pm to doubleb
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The vaccine was never purported to be 100% effective.
You can keep up with this disinformation piece all you want, but its simply a lie. And if you have to lie to make your point, you have no point. All these quotes are from April 2021:
quote:
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in an agency news release. The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic," she said.
quote:
"As vaccination accelerates, it's becoming undeniable that they [vaccines] are the path back to normalcy," said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Baltimore.
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"Data have emerged again that [demonstrate] that even if you were to get infected during post vaccination that you can't give it to anyone else," Walensky said in response to a question
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Walensky told MSNBC that "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick. And that it's not just in the clinical trials," the director added, "but it's also in real world data."
So again, based on those official comments, why are vaxed humans dying at all?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:56 pm to Big Jim Slade
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The deaths were probably people with co-morbidities who would’ve died from the virus regardless of vaccine status.
Maybe, but then you have to realize a lot of vaccinated people wouldn’t die if they didn’t get vaccinated.
And you don’t stop the spread, so it seems like there isn’t a point for healthy younger people to not just live their lives with or without the current vaccines.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:58 pm to Stonehog
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That settles it, now y’all can stop making 200 threads a day about it.
Why in the frick do you care?
You hardly post on this board.
Stick to the shite boards you post on.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:00 pm to Jjdoc
Even the third shot won't prevent death!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:07 pm to Loserman
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They don't show the most important numbers 1) Number of vaccinated per 100k that got sick and died Number of unvaccinated per 100k who got sick and died 2) Number of vaccinated per 100k that recovered Number of unvaccinated per 100k that recovered
More vaccinated died. You guys are legit going from it will save your life to now much smaller victories.
I get this info is important, but that’s what we unvaccinated have been saying the entire time.
There has been no need to go draconian measures with this shite.
I even saw a commercial for visit Alaska, it mentioned they had high vaccination rates. This has gotten out of hand.
Again there is no reason for some people to take these vaccines. Give it the frick up already.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:11 pm to Korkstand
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:19 pm to doubleb
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If 95% of the population was vaccinated, I could easily see more dying that were vaccinated because we know the vaccination is only 90% effective at most.
78% of those eligible in Israel are vaccinated. So the rate is under 78% total. haaretz
Of the total 607 deaths
61.8% were vaccinated
35.9% were unvaccinated
Not sure that works out to nearly 90% effective.
Not close to 90% effective against severe disease.
Not preventing hospitalizations.
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